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Post by Cardinal.jpg » Sat Feb 08, 2003 7:29 am

kthulhu wrote:Yes, but natural disasters aren't caused by corporations, they're caused by God . Unless corporations have natural disaster machines....
What I was getting at was media attention, not causes of accidents, and it is this that is governed by corporations.
I also haven't written off all corporations just because I don't appreciate their materialistic purposes, I do believe that some corporations make an effort to help and are there for the people as much as they are for their own pockets.
jonmartensen wrote: "If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. "
That sounds very Jack Handley
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Post by Squall3X » Sat Feb 08, 2003 9:13 am

klinky wrote:Not Another Religion Thread >_<


Gah :\

God doesn't exist .... END of STORY. The people dying in the building or getting burning :? up in the sky are not going to HEAVEN, there is NOT A heaven :\

Damn I guess I am a athiest now. However I came to the conclusion that humans do NOT have souls. We are extremely complex organic computers that waltz around and do stuff. Once the computer shuts off, "we" shut off. We have little programs running littler programs and littler programs and so on. It's a fine ballet of micro-mangament :|

So think about it like you shut down Internet Explorer. Is that instance of IE still alive in some alternate dimension or a "IE Heaven". No. I don't see how we are much different.

I think the columbia disater really brought those to me. Since the "machine" they were riding on ceased to exist(well it was in piieces). Everyone around the world was saying "They're in heaven right now" or praying for them. The fact is the shuttle is in pieces and the astronauts are in pieces :\ The astronauts are NOT "alive", they are GONE DEAD, THEY ARE NOT IN HEAVEN. Like if you turned off a light.

:? Harsh but true :\

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I respect your opinion and all and I usually dont really talk about god or anything but you really need to calm down, i mean there are people here that strongly believe in god and your just putting them down. I mean yeah i wonder myself why the hell god does bad things to us if he does exist, but to preach to everyone like that is just wrong of you, and i hope you understand what im saying.
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Post by fyrtenheimer » Sat Feb 08, 2003 9:17 am

I respect your opinion and all and I usually dont really talk about god or anything but you really need to calm down, i mean there are people here that strongly believe in god and your just putting them down. I mean yeah i wonder myself why the hell god does bad things to us if he does exist, but to preach to everyone like that is just wrong of you, and i hope you understand what im saying.
What exactly does God do to us that's bad?! Oh I really wanna hear this one, not that I haven't heard it 50 times before.

The point of the this thread was to give your opinion of it anyway. I don't exactly agree with what the Great klinky says, but I'm not going to tell him to shutup either.
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Post by Squall3X » Sat Feb 08, 2003 10:11 am

i never said shut up
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Post by jonmartensen » Sat Feb 08, 2003 3:37 pm

Cardinal.jpg wrote:
jonmartensen wrote: "If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. "
That sounds very Jack Handley
It's Handey :?

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Post by The Non-Professional » Sat Feb 08, 2003 4:05 pm

jonmartensen wrote:
Cardinal.jpg wrote:
jonmartensen wrote: "If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. "
That sounds very Jack Handley
It's Handey :?

"Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth you'd probably be able to get a lot of free games. "


wouldnt that only cause the tilt thingy to come on?

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Post by jonmartensen » Sat Feb 08, 2003 4:10 pm

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Post by Cardinal.jpg » Sat Feb 08, 2003 5:01 pm

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Post by EarthCurrent » Sat Feb 08, 2003 5:22 pm

kthulhu wrote:Yes, but natural disasters aren't caused by corporations, they're caused by God :lol: . Unless corporations have natural disaster machines.... :shock:
Bah, human actions (and by that, inclusive of corporate decisions) can and do regularly affect the scope and occurance of natural disasters.

Landslides, for example, are frequently the direct consequence of human activity. Seemingly insignificant modifications of surface flow and drainage may induce landslides. In an urban setting, improper drainage most often induces disastrous sliding. The placement of buildings on slide-prone coastal dunes (look to California for this), eroding headlands and sand spits, or at the edge of a receding shoreline, may lead to the loss of the structure. It has been noted that in Portland, population pressure has pushed construction into many areas and sites previously rejected as landslide-prone. Agricultural irrigation and forestry practices such as <a href="http://www.lightparty.com/Economic/Clea ... ar-cutting and stripping vegetation from naturally oversteepened slopes have been shown to be responsible for a spate of landslides</a>. Highway construction on similar slope conditions awaits only the first good rain to provoke earth movement. In an urban setting, improper drainage most often induces disastrous sliding.

One might also look to the failure of the <a href="http://www.ida.net/users/elaine/idgenwe ... htm">Teton Dam in Idaho in 1976</a> and the <a href="http://lists.uakron.edu/geology/natscig ... ississippi floods of 1993</a> as examples of human actions either leading directly to natural disaster or making the disaster more catastrophic through channelization of waterways and wetland destruction, which, in both cases, would have slowed the progress of flood waters.

During the 1930s, poor agricultural practices, and increased mechanized farming led to nearly a decade of <a href="http://www.ptsi.net/user/museum/dustbowl.html">"Dust Bowl</a>" climate in the West and Midwestern U.S.. Similarly desertification in the Sahel of Africa is regularly blamed on similar factors, though economic conditions, and political turmoil in the region make conservation efforts by either farmers or governments difficult.

And the notion that it is possible to argue that human caused disasters are not "natural" is little more than fancyful and ego driven thinking. Calicott, Nash, Foreman, Leopold, Muire, among others we might note as being or having been leading conservationist thinkers, handily dismissed the notion that humans can continue to place themselves as "seperate" from nature.

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Post by jonmartensen » Sat Feb 08, 2003 5:31 pm

Well Mr. Terracotaformology man, that was very nice. :D

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