Give me your thoughts on this theory.

[RadicalEd0]

muahahahaha

My mind wanders to bullshit like this as well all the time. Studies in philosophy, personal experience with LOVE omgwtf, and lots of big fuckin books make this problem of mine even worse.

What you speak sir is of the difference between duality, and one-ness. Two subjects I've actually been pondering alot lately. The moon must be in something weird.
Duality vs singularity is the basis of the whole universe. The difference between positive and negative and then both into one and the whole thing making a trinity of being.
Consider the universe. It's accepted that it goes through days of duality and nights of oneness. During each active period (after a 'big bang'), all which was one becomes material and separate, dual. Forces take effect, forces being nothing without an opposite force to react against. The entire physical universe is about duality. The most low, physical, material things represent the ultimate of duality. Hatred is considered low, hatred is all about opposing forces.
Then of course at the end of the day the universe closes up again (big crunch) and duality dissapears. Nothing exists and at the same time everything exists, all one, with no distinction or separation between it.

The idea that everything defines it's antithesis is wise indeed. Positive and Negative, good and evil, yin and yang, are all just two opposing forces. None can stand alone and be relevant in any way without the other. Didn't Vicious say? You and I define each other's existance, or something like that. Maybe I'm making up memories again :\
Duality is like one-ness with blurred vision. The single point or no-point splits into -1 and 1, straddling 0.

I dont think bad is self-defining, I think good and bad are equivalent opposites, neither self-defining, both the effect of the other. Its like protons vs electrons. Theres nothing 'negative' about electrons nor is there anything 'positive' about protons. They're just opposing forces, positive and negative are just labels denoting polarity on every level you can consider them.

That was a weak summary of some of the issues of duality that I've been pondering lately. Of course, I hate trying to put thought forms into words, much less text.

[R-A-N-M-A]

There for exsistance, required non-exsistance, without an infinite ammmount of "Time", and I say time in quotations because it is a relativly irrelavant factor in the overall definition of exsistance and non-exsistance. exsistance could not come to be, so for an infinite ammount of time we time, space etc etc did not exsist but for and equailly inifinte ammount of time there is exsistance. In which you theiry suggests that since evil is self defining th unvers must there for be good and non-exsistance (points where light has not yet reached) is evil. I see one flaw, your thoerie you are required to define non-exsistance, which cannot be defined.

[jonmartensen]

What you seem to be thinking of is plurality ed. More than one reality physically and then the intangible ideas.

Dualism is more generally the idea that that which is "real" (discovering just what real means can probably be an entire philosophy major) is the physical world (the tangible) and the mental world (Ideas/Forms).

Monism (singularity) is the idea that only the tangible is real, or the tangible is only a perception of the mind and only Ideas/Forms are real.

[Kamoc]

i appreciate everyone capitalizing their sentances; it makes this so much easier to read and reflects true genious on behalf of the speakers.

[Mr Pilkington]

I was unable to sleep the other night, and as so often happens at times like that, my mind started to tick over, and i came up with a rather interesting thesis. Its fairly straightforward, and it runs along the lines of this....

This prompted me to think about the birth of the universe. Before order was chaos, which in turn defined the lack of chaos that followed, which was defined as order.... Blah blah blah

What are your thoughts?

You are incorrect! I had a simmilar experience, in which I saw the light. You see in my religion... We (I) call it Philism.... we (I) belive in devine creation. For see, as God has always been and always will be, God got bored one day (as which often occurs.) He therfore decied to create a holy drink. He called it: Coffee. Then the evil one, Starbuck, came to destroy his creation and was cast down. The drink was good. slightly bitter, just the way God likes it. But it was lackiong companionship. It needs a compliment food. So God created the holy doughnut. A (one side) chocolate, (other side) powdered sugar, with 2 rings of glaze (one inner, one outer), all filled with the holiest of deserts: custard. God took a bite and was instantly pleased. But, it could have been even better. So God dunked this holy doughnut in the holy coffee. And it was impecably delicious. But now pieces began to fall off the doughnut. First the sugar foated away, creating bright specks of white light in the icky black space. Then the chocolate began to fall off, it fell into tiny speck creating round globuals of fertile miniature land. Finnaly the galze broke off, but unlike the chocolate it had no uniform shape, and tended to colide iwth everything. So God looked upon this mess and decied to give it shape, he took his finger and spun the mass of crumbs, creating uniformity where the once wasn't. Larger swirls begat smaller wans and so fourth untill perpetual motion was instated. Now everthing had a place. God gave his creation a name, "universe," and left it be. soon a few of the chocolate globs formed fertil land and thus entropy began to proform it's mysterious magic. Soon life grew from nothing and life as we know it began.....

Opinnions?

[R-A-N-M-A]

A more refined version is that perhaps instead of attemping to define non-exsistance, perhaps define evil as non-exsistance, that would account for non-exsistance and evil both are able to exsist on their own, but in the end they creat opposites.

Since the 4th dimension can be refined into a 3 dementional sphere, if you are where we are, at said spcae and time in the sphere, what ever is at the exact opposite location of spacetime relative to us, is in effect the opposite, which supports the theory that if it were possible to split the universe in half and you walked to 1 meter of the other side of the unvierse but still remaining on your side you would witness time and space as working back wards and your equvilant on the opposite side of the line would see ttime and space flowing in opposide direction, even though both times are flow forward. So even tho you and your conter part would continue to age and look normal you and you counterpart youe winess the actions on the other side of the line in exact reverse.

But there is a flaw, since, "time" plays no part and that time is infinite it os inmpossible to define an opposite point in time. But it is possible to have an opposite space, asuming you use the sphere diagram. A solution to the proble would be to assume that time and space and not 1 single 4th dimention but that there is an opposite 5th dimention that runs parallel to our 4th there you could select opposite points on the 4th and 5th dimentional space time sphere diagram. But this is impossible to invision since the mind only works around 3 dimentions and limited to uni-directional 4 dimentional thought.

[jonmartensen]

nice to know you kare, kamoc

[KhayotiK]

I like coffee.

[AnonymousLurker]

Iced Mocha

I never really looked at it as good and evil but more two sides with different opionons I mean the so called evil side probaly calls the opposing side evil while looking at themselves at the protaginist.But I do belive opposites need each other to co-exist.

[R-A-N-M-A]

The best support for the therory is that infinity is truly undifineable. There for folloing the oppositism rules, inifnity cam first which begat unity. With that intact you get equilbrium wich caused chaos. quilibrium is non- exsistance because it is 100% perfectly stable but since, non-exsistance requires by rule an opoosite, exsistance (choas) is spawned since non-exsistance infinitly large 4th and 5th dementionally there for exsistance must also fit that rule there for existance will infinitly grow as non-exsistance infinitly shirnks at the same rate since exsistance it taking non exsistances place in the sphere of the 4th and 5th dimention, tho if it were seen in my last post and the center you would witnesse exsistance infinitly shrink and non-exsistance ininitly grow.

Tho the 5th diemntion to exsist parallel to the 4th, following the rules the 5th contains -infinity and -exsistance and -non-exsistance, where as 4 has inifnitly exsistance and non-exsitance. While following the oppositeism theorum 5th dimention must actually be th -4th dimention. Which fits exactly into math:

A negative times a negative = a positive

In the -4th dimention everything is negative so - is cancelled out and you go forwards but when you look across the ling everything is negative since it is the opposite so to the other side we are the -4th dimention.