viable alt to huffyuv

[The_Mad_Hatter]

Is there a viable alternative to the huffyuv codec? I am trying to use DVD2AVI to make editable clips from vob files. Thus far the best luck I have had is with mpeg4. Quality suffers, I guess. But "poor quality" is better than no quality, which is what I am getting with huffyuv. Premiere will not open the files, (I get an error and have to close premiere) and Windows media player will not open the files. Besides, a huge, cumbersom lossless codec seems kinda pointless for something I do for fun. I want to do DVD quality mpeg2, but DVD2AVI dosn't seem to want to encode that way, and reading the guides isn't getting me far. What am I missing here? I just want my video to look better than my Dazzel capture, and right now I am not getting there. I am on the verge of not enjoying this anymore!

BTW, if it matters I am editing in Premiere 6.0.
I downloaded the AMVapp, installed avisynth and all that.
Read the guides, as far as I could without my brain getting numb.
I dunno...

What kind of system are you on?

Personally I would suggest, if you've got the space, rip from the VOB files and make HUFFY encodes. Then use TMPGEnc to convert the HUFFY encodes into MPEG-1. Uh, make sure you deinterlace though if you need to. An MPEG-4 codec would also be fine...if you don't mind poorer playback and having to either pay money or have your system molested with spyware and adware....it will also look better at bit rates below 500kbps (although the vast majority of experts in the video encoding field will claim 720~750).

I'm not sure what you mean by "poor quality", because really you should be able to achieve "good quality" with jsut about any codec. I mean it doesn't matter if you're using MPEG-1, 2, 4, etc. You can encode with like 4,000kbps on any of those and just about any resolution you like. I'm wondering if part of your expectations are being skewed by what resolution you're using. Are you using something like 352x240 or something more along the lines of 640x480?

[klinky]

If you guys edit in anything other than MJPEG or huffYUV, you're just asking for headaches.


There is no real alternative that gives you the speed/stability/quality of MJPEG or huffYUV.

~klinky

[The_Mad_Hatter]

If you guys edit in anything other than MJPEG or huffYUV, you're just asking for headaches.


There is no real alternative that gives you the speed/stability/quality of MJPEG or huffYUV.

~klinky

ESPECIALLY on the speed issue. I don't even think I COULD edit using Premiere on my piddling lil 233Mhz system if it wasn't for the speed of HUFFY. o_O

[trythil]

If you guys edit in anything other than MJPEG or huffYUV, you're just asking for headaches.


There is no real alternative that gives you the speed/stability/quality of MJPEG or huffYUV.

~klinky

Edit MPEG2 natively.

[NicholasDWolfwood]

What kind of system are you on?

Personally I would suggest, if you've got the space, rip from the VOB files and make HUFFY encodes. Then use TMPGEnc to convert the HUFFY encodes into MPEG-1. Uh, make sure you deinterlace though if you need to. An MPEG-4 codec would also be fine...if you don't mind poorer playback and having to either pay money or have your system molested with spyware and adware....it will also look better at bit rates below 500kbps (although the vast majority of experts in the video encoding field will claim 720~750).

I'm not sure what you mean by "poor quality", because really you should be able to achieve "good quality" with jsut about any codec. I mean it doesn't matter if you're using MPEG-1, 2, 4, etc. You can encode with like 4,000kbps on any of those and just about any resolution you like. I'm wondering if part of your expectations are being skewed by what resolution you're using. Are you using something like 352x240 or something more along the lines of 640x480?

Erm...you're stupid. Seriously.

DVD (YV12) -> HuffYUV (YUY2) -> MPEG-1 (YUY2) -> Premiere (RGB)

Wayyy too many colourspace conversions, bud. Plus, there's no point in resizing down to 640x480 unless you want a true computer 4:3 aspect instead of TV 4:3 (computer 3:2) aspect.

[The_Mad_Hatter]

What kind of system are you on?

Personally I would suggest, if you've got the space, rip from the VOB files and make HUFFY encodes. Then use TMPGEnc to convert the HUFFY encodes into MPEG-1. Uh, make sure you deinterlace though if you need to. An MPEG-4 codec would also be fine...if you don't mind poorer playback and having to either pay money or have your system molested with spyware and adware....it will also look better at bit rates below 500kbps (although the vast majority of experts in the video encoding field will claim 720~750).

I'm not sure what you mean by "poor quality", because really you should be able to achieve "good quality" with jsut about any codec. I mean it doesn't matter if you're using MPEG-1, 2, 4, etc. You can encode with like 4,000kbps on any of those and just about any resolution you like. I'm wondering if part of your expectations are being skewed by what resolution you're using. Are you using something like 352x240 or something more along the lines of 640x480?

Erm...you're stupid. Seriously.

DVD (YV12) -> HuffYUV (YUY2) -> MPEG-1 (YUY2) -> Premiere (RGB)

Wayyy too many colourspace conversions, bud.

And that's going to be a problem in...what way exactly? I dunno, maybe you're just special and unlike most of us who can only see 5 to 7 million colors you can somehow magically see more than that...then again maybe you're the one whose stupid...seriously. Colorspace conversion is gonna very little if any affect on the overall quality of the video.

Plus, there's no point in resizing down to 640x480 unless you want a true computer 4:3 aspect instead of TV 4:3 (computer 3:2) aspect.

I was just giving ball park figures, Stupid. I just wanted to know if he was using a resolution somewhere close to 352x240 or something a lot higher like 640x480. I DID NOT say he SHOULD use 640x480.

[NME]

See, you can't even make an arguement without insulting someone. Go back to Oregon.

[The_Mad_Hatter]

See, you can't even make an arguement without insulting someone. Go back to Oregon.

And there's one of the little trouble makers, lookin to start shit.

That first d00d, insulted ME first.

"Erm...you're stupid. Seriously."

I'm not makin this stuff up, it's right there in black in white. And just like I said before, don't START nothin, won't BE nothin. If someone wants to take the time to insult me they should FULLY expect to get it slammed right back across their face about 10 times harder. See I tend to reflect the emotions and stance of the people I reply to. If you respond to me in a hostile manner...that's what yer gonna get back.

[NME]

Seems like we've forgotten that NDW is 11. Its really easy to pick on an 11 year old. What a hero.

[The_Mad_Hatter]

Seems like we've forgotten that NDW is 11. Its really easy to pick on an 11 year old. What a hero.

I'm not picking on anyone, trouble maker. I'm giving people EXACTLY what they're giving me. You wanna give shit, you're gonna get shit, I don't care how old you are, in fact the earlier you learn that life lesson, the better. I'm not here to be anyone's babysitter and I'm certainly not about to start coddling some child when they start flinging insults at me...that includes you too, BTW.