Whose acting like he's 12?RadicalEd0 wrote:You know the funniest realization to come from this thread? Nick and Hatter are on the exact same mental level. Nick is 11. Hatter looks like he's 35 and act's like he's 12, so averaging those I'd guess 24.
Don't compliment me, Fuckup. I don't like it when pathetic retards compliment me.There are a few differences. Hatter speaks eloquently, nick dosent.
Which is why the poor boi had to ask for someone else to prove his point...and he couldn't even do that!Nick knows wtf he's talking about,
Jeebus H Keerist, it's the pot calling the kettle black.hatter makes a bunch of stupid and unreferenced generalizations.
You still haven't met my challenge. Instead you tried to propose your own half assed challenge that doesn't even make sense. I mean I've got no probs reencoding like you want, but what that's gonna prove and in relation to what...well apparently one has to be trapped in your delusional little world to understand.But you don't need me to tell you how sad of a story hatter is
When are you gonna get your ADD under control, Cupcake?actually DVD-video (YV12) -> Huffyuv (YUY2 or RGB) -> TMPG (RGB) -> Mpeg 1 (YV12) -> Premiere (RGB) -> any distro codec (YV12)
That's 6 colorspace conversions max, 4 min.
and holy god is there a lot wrong with that method.
Where to begin. Well, howabout Huffyuv.
It should actually be DVD (YV12) > Huffyuv (RGB) > Premiere (RGB) > MPEG-1 (YV12)
Only two conversions, fuckup. And like I explained to all the people who WEREN'T terminally fucking retarded, I'm on a PII 233Mhz system and I don't keep track of amateur "programmers" on the fuckin d00/\/\9 message boards, so Huffy is the only real option I have for fast editing. And since Premiere is RGB anyway, well, not really any way to get around it any way you wanna look at it...see editing is sort of an important process in making AMVs.
Can anyone believe this moron? I mean he edits video in a lossy codec?! o_OWhy the hell waste all that hdd space when you could just go straight from the vob to tmpg through avisynth. But that's another issue - just some stupidity that snuck in.
That's just...insanely retarded. I haven't checked his videos out though, maybe he's just never done any advanced video editing that requires more than dozen or so reconversions.
Jesus Keerist, just shut up. Come back when you stop editing video in lossy formats you moron.why encode to mpeg 1 at all. Chrissakes, you'd think after being told so many times you people would get it. At the very least, use mjpeg. It's a pretty grandiose show of stupidity to encode an mpeg 1 at 4 mbps to edit with (tho the 'experts' as well as the people who created the fucken standard say that it is only optimized in the 1 - 1.5 mpbs range and above there mpeg 2 will outperform) when you could cre<SLAP>
Now this moron thinks DvX3.11 supports multiple passes, VBR encoding, etc, etc... *rolls eyes*poorer playback in what respect? Last I remember it was DivX 3.11 that could be played back pristine on a 200mhz system. Pay money? Spyware or adware? Maybe if you're like hatter and can't figure out anything besides divx 5 yes. Though, the adware in XviD, 3ivX, DivX 3.11, DivX 5 free, dicas, and ffvfw/ffmpeg must be pretty damn sneaky! So sneaky in fact, that it dosent exist. Oh snap
If it did, we wouldn't even NEED DivX5 you moron.
I'll look up the link for ya later on, Cupcake. Of course you'll just backpedal around it like the doofy little clown you are...but, what the hey.Nothing looks good below 500kbps (except realmedia ). Pls cite some of the vast amount of experts who set 720 - 750 as the limit where mpeg 4 loses it's advantage over Mpeg 1.
Yes, and that's why at bit rates above 500kbps it doesn't DO anything that MPEG-1 and 2 can't already do.Btw, some info. Mpeg 1 is optimized for 22x15 macroblocks at bitrates of around 1.5 mbps. Mpeg 2 is optimized for 44x30 and above macroblocks and at bitrates above 1.5 - 2 mbps. Mpeg 4 originally was to be optimized for 11x9 macroblocks at bitrates between 50 and 300 kbps but soon expanded to cover the entire range of bitrates and resolutions, scaling up to something like 4000x4000 max resolution and some odd gbps for one of the higher profiles (this is all from memory mind you).
Yeesh, this d00d is so fuckin retarded he's actually arguing MY side and he doesn't even KNOW it. o_O
...what TYPE of conversion was used?Now about colorspace conversions.
Here we have a nice test img.
The img converted to yv12
The img converted to yuy2
the img converted to yv12, back to rgb, then back to yv12 again.
yv12 -> yuy2 -> rgb -> yv12 -> rgb -> yv12
Here we have it converted from rgb to yv12 and back 2 times
4 times
8 times
16 times
Here we have it converted to yuy2 and then from yuy2 to yv12 and back 2 times
4 times
8 times
16 times
here we have it converted from rgb to yuy2 and back 2 times
4 times
8 times
16 times.
conversions in avisynth 2.51
As you can see, the conversions have quite an impact especially on pure colors. Though the biggest impact happens on initial rgb -> yuv, pretty large differences exist between that and re-converted files.
I mean, this is not rocket science, Cupcake. I don't even know what type of conversion avisynth uses, but I'd be willing to bet that it's not the absolute BEST. And converting from YV12 to RGB and back to YV12...yeah, pretty much not gonna have any real noticable impact...at least not any that can't be fixed with a lil gamma correction, you pathetic snit.
Oh, but please, tell us all again how you're managing to edit video in Premiere using YV12. ^_^