Tired b/c the "arguments" I get are usually illogical and a "the world revolves around me" argument (as UncleMilo noted). I also hope people know that as I have said A NUMBER of times (although it doesn't help apparently) that you're free to like what you want. I am just stating my opinion (and respect for creators) that I think is valid.Propyro wrote: but yea dwchang i can see why your getting tired of these dub vs sub thread wars ...
As strange as it sounds coming from someone who fervently argues it...I'm tired of it too. I do agree that it's a circle and that no one "wins" perse, but I always have that slight hope that someone sees my (logical) points at the very least. I don't at all mean to CHANGE your mind, but I do expect the courtesy to listen...which I'm not seeing...and hence the replies (since I see real stupid and half-assed statements).earthcurrent wrote:Sigh...another sub/dub war...
When I got into anime 15 years ago, people argued over the same thing, fancy that.
Yet, today I still see the same arguments and defenses being raised.
One would think that people would have come up with something new to say by now but they haven't.
It makes me wonder why any of you on either side of the fence would act like you have some sort of high ground to stand upon.
meh, that should be expected any time your dealing with people. not jsut on the forum, but any where, never once expect to hear a cohereant thought stream out of a persons mouth on find it's way onto a peice of paper, this way you won't have to worry about being dissapointed. And if you do find some form or logic or reason comong from someone you can take it as a reason to celebrate. Now jsut because i'm saying this dosn't mean 1/5 of what i say makes any sense. I'm still human, therefore i'm still ignorant, annoying and deplorable. Sorry for dragging my views on human nature onto this thread ...dwchang wrote: (since I see real stupid and half-assed statements).
Oh come on...earthcurrent wrote:Sigh...another sub/dub war...
When I got into anime 15 years ago, people argued over the same thing, fancy that.
Yet, today I still see the same arguments and defenses being raised.
One would think that people would have come up with something new to say by now but they haven't.
It makes me wonder why any of you on either side of the fence would act like you have some sort of high ground to stand upon.
Sorry, but arguing your opinion about subs/dubs on a forum is not going to win over converts. So if you are indeed genuinely tired, retire from the war, and learn to hold your tongue, even when people say things you might disagree with. And that goes for most all of you...dwchang wrote:As strange as it sounds coming from someone who fervently argues it...I'm tired of it too. I do agree that it's a circle and that no one "wins" perse, but I always have that slight hope that someone sees my (logical) points at the very least. I don't at all mean to CHANGE your mind, but I do expect the courtesy to listen...which I'm not seeing...and hence the replies (since I see real stupid and half-assed statements).
Like I said..I apologize for that, but I am fairly fervent (duh) about this b/c of my respect for art/creations and keeping things undisturbed.
Oh please.earthcurrent wrote:Sorry, but arguing your opinion about subs/dubs on a forum is not going to win over converts. So if you are indeed genuinely tired, retire from the war, and learn to hold your tongue, even when people say things you might disagree with. And that goes for most all of you...
oh cool, your a VA ... what kind of stuff have you done? And i can see what kind of boat yrou in by having both "sides" dislike you for your job and ideas. That must really suck.UncleMilo wrote:[
I prefer subs... and I'm a god-damn voice actor for the English dubs. I've been called an enemy of anime by the sub extremists for being an English voice actor and I have been harassed by the dub fans for supporting subs.
