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Post by kthulhu » Sat May 10, 2003 10:56 pm

Kage Bushin wrote:i am an american and i would just like to say i also hate americans with all my heart that in cludes hating myself half the time because i am (thank God) half japanese

and 2nd thing there is no end to our evil
somebodyplease bomb us, better yet. have every country in the world drop neuclear bombs on us that way we could get rid of weapons of mass destruction at the same time
Japanese aren't any better than Americans, and maybe even worse. I mean, which country has developed lolicon, entire subcultures devoted to subway groping, a massive shit eating and vomit porn industry, a social undercurrent of female domination, AND tentacle rape ( with examples going back CENTURIES, to statues of pearl divers being violated by cephalopods)? And we can't forget the healthy dose of xenophobic racism, that targets anyone who isn't part of the Nippon hive - including, even today, some native, regular Japanese (the burakumin)!

And that's just off the top of my head!

Not America, that's for damn sure.

Anyhow, tossing nukes at America may as well be considered the same as tossing nukes at the rest of the world. If the US was going down, we'd damn well take everyone with us.
I'm out...

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Post by Kage Bushin » Sun May 11, 2003 12:14 am

kthulhu wrote: Japanese aren't any better than Americans, and maybe even worse. I mean, which country has developed lolicon, entire subcultures devoted to subway groping, a massive shit eating and vomit porn industry, a social undercurrent of female domination, AND tentacle rape ( with examples going back CENTURIES, to statues of pearl divers being violated by cephalopods)? And we can't forget the healthy dose of xenophobic racism, that targets anyone who isn't part of the Nippon hive - including, even today, some native, regular Japanese (the burakumin)!

And that's just off the top of my head!

Not America, that's for damn sure.

Anyhow, tossing nukes at America may as well be considered the same as tossing nukes at the rest of the world. If the US was going down, we'd damn well take everyone with us.
screw america

yeah the japanese have come up with some screwed up stuff but the only reason that america didnt come up with all of that first is because it didnt exist until over 2000 years after japan (establishment of a ruling power within its own country)
also america only exists because it commited genocide on the indigenous people and stole their land
and japan may have come up with screwed ideas but many americans have followed these ideas even after realizing how screwed up the ideas were
and how are they responsible for the invention of subway groping, that was invented by americans long before the japanese even had a subway system

dont forget who created anime, the greatest invention period (sliced bread dosent even compare)

and if you hate japanese ideas and inventions so much why are u a member of a website focusing on anime music videos

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Post by Kamoc » Sun May 11, 2003 12:36 am

Kage Bushin wrote:if you hate american ideas and inventions so much why are u a member of the country
hello ignorance train!
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Post by kthulhu » Sun May 11, 2003 1:07 am

Kage Bushin wrote: screw america

yeah the japanese have come up with some screwed up stuff but the only reason that america didnt come up with all of that first is because it didnt exist until over 2000 years after japan (establishment of a ruling power within its own country)
also america only exists because it commited genocide on the indigenous people and stole their land
and japan may have come up with screwed ideas but many americans have followed these ideas even after realizing how screwed up the ideas were
and how are they responsible for the invention of subway groping, that was invented by americans long before the japanese even had a subway system

dont forget who created anime, the greatest invention period (sliced bread dosent even compare)

and if you hate japanese ideas and inventions so much why are u a member of a website focusing on anime music videos
I never said the Japanese invented subway groping. I basically said they seem to have a whole cultural aspect dedicated to it. "No they don't!" you'd say? Then why are "women only" carriages becoming more common?

As for "also america only exists because it commited genocide on the indigenous people and stole their land" - what country doesn't occupy or control land that was stolen from someone else? Oh yeah, none. For that matter, the Native Americans were the sad price that was paid for the march of progress into the present day. I've got NA in me, and even I can say this. Had the New World been pretty much left alone, the world may be in a terrible state...

And if you want genocide in the name of conquering, pre-WWII Japan is a fine example.
Kage Bushin wrote:and japan may have come up with screwed ideas but many americans have followed these ideas even after realizing how screwed up the ideas were
Yes, and they're called "Japanophiles". HUMANS in general will typically try to disassociate from them.
Kage Bushin wrote:dont forget who created anime, the greatest invention period (sliced bread dosent even compare)
Anime and sliced bread don't compare on a general level because: Anime is a genre of artistic expression. Sliced bread is an industrial marketing procedure, designed to sell a product (loaves of bread) via the suggestive application of convenience.

It's like comparing apples and sink pipes.

Anyhow, sliced bread can typically win out in most comparisons, due to the fact that there is no such thing as bad sliced bread, and it can be a lifesaver when you're starving. There's plenty of bad anime, on the other hand, and good luck eating those DVDs, since they're only good for holding digitized video signals.
Kage Bushin wrote:and if you hate japanese ideas and inventions so much why are u a member of a website focusing on anime music videos
Ahh, the "go to Soviet Russia if you hate it here, you commie pinko!" kicker ;)

I've never explicitly stated any hatred for Japan, the Japanese people, or their culture. I've expressed disdain for aspects of it, and I'll just as readily express disdain for stupid or disturbing instances of American culture ("freedom" fries, "Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire?", nu-metal, and Attorney General John Ashcroft come to mind).

Unlike, say, you, who has had nothing but shit to say about the US of A. There's lousy shit all over the world. There's plenty of good stuff, too. I'm just exchanging tit for tat.

And now, to answer your question, I'll change it around and pose it to you:

Why are YOU, with your apparent anti-US attitude, on an American AMV site? Wouldn't a Japanese one serve you better?
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Kage Bushin wrote:if you hate american ideas and inventions so much why are u a member of the country
hello ignorance train!
Well put.
I'm out...

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Post by Dannywilson » Sun May 11, 2003 1:18 am

Kamoc wrote:
Kage Bushin wrote:if you hate american ideas and inventions so much why are u a member of the country
hello ignorance train!
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Post by EarthCurrent » Sun May 11, 2003 4:26 am

Kage Bushin wrote:there was a survey that shows that 50% of americans dont know who our 1st president was(my history teacher told me this)
And you automatically took your teachers word for fact in this matter?
There is a problem when students don't question things enough.
Personally, that sounds like fudged statistics to me.

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Post by EarthCurrent » Sun May 11, 2003 4:40 am

Kage Bushin wrote:also america only exists because it commited genocide on the indigenous people and stole their land
Well, archaelogical and linguistic studies note that the "Japanese" aren't native to Japan, but rather migrated to the Japanese Islands from Korea.
The first inhabitants to the islands were the Ainu, a caucasoid people. Much like the American Indian populaition in the U.S., the Ainu, too were similarly displaced by a group of migrants of a different racial, cultural and linguist background than their own. As a people, the Ainu are slowly dying, with the center of their culture is now only really found in Hokaido. The Japanese government, much like the American government, for years had a rather successful policy of trying to reeducate the Ainu and assimilate them into "Japanese" society. Yet, much like the Burukumin (as well as Koreans), Ainu are still regularly treated as second class citizens, especially on the southern islands.

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Post by Declan_Vee » Sun May 11, 2003 7:10 am

... Thanks a lot Kage Bushin This thread started off as a couple of Aussies chaoticstormbringer and drizzts_death, looking for a con.
You turned it into a "I hate America, we are so evil" thread. You scared them away!
While we're at it Australia isn't perfect either. I could go on all day about the Howard government's immigration, or rather anti-immigration policy. but I won't. Why? Because no-one wants to hear it. It just pointless bitching.

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In regard to the remark I made about American idiots... that is a numbers thing that can be understood using the the following logic:

The majority of the people on this forum are Americans.
There are a lot of idiots on this forum.
So therefore, the majority of idiots on this forum must be Americans.
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Granted the topic subject is "Anime Expo and why I hate you Americans", not so much anger, but rather jealousy which could have been easily fixed by going to AVcon
Now back to my losses...
(Ticketing profit + Food sale profit) x2 = ~$50, now considering that they probably would have brought a friend each, we multiply by 2 again and we get... ~$100, care to pay up, you bastard?

While I'm at it, extra brownie points for FirestormXIII :D
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Post by chaoticstormbringer » Sun May 11, 2003 7:27 am

first of all don't ever diss the japanese :P they are the coolest people around and I would kill all of you to know their secret in staying happy and young while they get all the stuff on their tvs that only we can ever dream about (stuff that american tv would not dare to put on their tv for the sake of americankind)

secondly, I hate melbourne, it is a whiny cold place where the only good thing ou can do there is joyride in government limos and laugh at the people. well in other words I'm not travelling 20 hours going through nsw.

thirdly, YYou just can't beat an american animecon, i'm not sure if more than a quarter of our population know what anime is, unfortunately. 8/10 people I asked didn't even know what a riceball was. So... i doubt they know much about japanese other than they are enthusiastic tourists with cameras, like them chinese peeps about.

fourthly, is there no humanity left in this world? americans, you are a richer country, come haul your ass over to australia and raise up a massive AVcon in Brisbane or Goldcoast I mean, we celebrate st patricks day for four days straight, lots and lots of booze and everything :P (of course everyone feels like hell after the four days but hey the fun never stops)

fifthly. Donations to the poor guy that needs money to build his own computer that can withstand the power to make great anime music videos? i'm a little short :P

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Post by chaoticstormbringer » Sun May 11, 2003 7:45 am

oh and as for australia, yes we are a pretty screwed up country. But I don't care :P I'm like the entire world in my veins. Australian, american, german, yugoslav, arabir, turkish, british, chinese, mongolian and if i got right back into history, I would have persian ancestry of asia minor :P

I love australia how it is, and johnny howard is doing fine where he is (all the other politicians are alot worse so we need howard to stay as prime minister) Yes we do have a bad government system that nobody approves of, yes we do have our restrictions, (no x-rated porn movies at the video store, women don't get maternal leave, big news fuss over a stupid trapped pigeon and annoying commercials about drinking and driving that look so damn fake.)

Yes I hate americans out of envy because they get just about everything. I hate americans even more for editing the anime and putting in crappy translations. I hate americans for having stupid wrestling groups over in australia when an anime con could be a hell of a lot more productive.

We even have old men that seemed to have a rape history and are the government general. We also have mothers that have those eyes... when they are angry they have eyes of death, ready to kill. (freaky) we have wombats squished on the road by truck tires. And we have long stretches of beach with shark infested waters.

We have people who thing the gold watch and the incredibly thick gold chain is still a fashion. We even have entire shops full of things that just don't make sense and or look like they've been put together using that lumpy glue that you get in a bottle that so many kids think is an edible treat.

Okay enough of my ranting and raving. The point is nobody is perfect, we all love the japanese and the world would be a better place if american just came over to australia and made a huge anime con :P you provide the stuff we provide the beer and meat, we dance we shmooze we party and carry on laughing and having a good time no what do ya say? :P

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