What makes a video re-viewable?

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 8:27 pm

"Odorikuruu"

there.

Wyverex · Post by **Wyverex** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 8:34 pm

I looped Believe and Former Glory (Fluxmeister) several times...

Believe cause it's just the best AMV i've ever seen and Former Glory cause it's incredibly COOL!

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 9:15 pm

Yeah I agree with MJ. But there's more than that too. I think a big part of reviewablity-ness is in action-sync and video flow. Comedy also makes a video reviewable if it's good. "Senshi on Springer" is definately reviewable, just not loop style. Like once every other day. The pace of the video should be relatively faster, but not in all cases. It has to match the song though.

For example, rubyeye's "Princess of the Wind" video was very well synced and edited but the song's slowness and length of the video makes it hard to sit through more than, say, 6 or 7 times.

My personal favorite of Kevin Caldwell's is his "Sleep Now" vid and that is extremely well synced (as good as "Believe") ans pretty short.

So, yes, length has some influence but some vids can be really long and still reviewable.

VegettoEX · Post by **VegettoEX** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 10:10 pm

To me, a video is "re-viewable" if there's something more to it, something beneath the surface. Scott brings up this example a lot, so it's stuck in my head, but Kevin Caldwell's "Believe" is one of the best examples. Sure, it's got phenomenal editing and it's just an all-around great video, but the more you watch it, the more you see beneath the surface. I haven't actually watched the series (OK, I saw two eps. of the TV series), but I come to find out that the image the main character keeps having of this woman is her mother, and that her mother was some kind of idol to her. You don't NEED to see the OVA/series to get something out of this, but it takes a few times through to really get a full sense of what Kevin was doing.

The first time, you go "Oooohhh." The second time you go, "Wow...". The third time, you're speechless and in tears.

Vlad's "Memories Dance" (sorry, d00d, we always bring you up ^^) is another perfect example of this. The first time through I was paying attention to the scenes used. The second time through I was paying attention to the study of motion put into effect. The third time through I was paying attention to the distinct "sections" of the video (male / female / animal / etc).

A video can be GOOD and you can "watch it again," but what I see as "re-viewable" is a video that tells me a new story each time I come back to it, and one that hardly loses its initial impact down the road (possibly gaining, as in these examples, MORE impact).

OmniStrata · Post by **OmniStrata** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 11:52 pm

There is KNOWN FACT that the song can carry a video. But excellent editing helps too.

Should the formula be perfect, you will have a proven combo that will satisfy ALL comers.

The vid itself needs to be stellar in music first for me. If I like the song, review goes sky-high.

In the final word, one video has proven time and again, over 290 times to be exact, that there IS a way to make a video so damn reviewable that people who dislike the song itself like the video!

Some people I know who hate anime love Odorikuruu!

:/

Go figure...

priuscomet · Post by **priuscomet** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 12:53 am

fo real tho.

i showed my roommate last year odorikuruu and she was amazed. she's never seen anime and that was her frist amv to watch. she was really taken by the vid. then she wanted to see it again and again. i sat there pushing repeat laughing at her while she just watched it. i showed her another vid, but she really like odorikuruu. i was really surprised at her reaction to the vid too.

i don't know what makes odorikuruu so highly appreciated. the music is one of those songs that when you hear it once, its stuck in ur head forever. the clips are all chibi's dancing and everyone just up and happy singing to the song. i guess it's just the fun factor of the vid that keeps people smiling and setting the vid on loop. its just basically a fun vid. i mean, there aren't many people who watch drama movies because they want to cry. people tend to go to the theatres to laugh their ass off. that's why comedy is so popular. its a happy thang

alternatefutures · Post by **alternatefutures** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 12:56 am

Reviewable is probably the shallowest of all the criteria. I mean, you're video could be as brilliantly put together as Citizen Cain, but just like the movie, have low replay value, or, it could be as base as a Tomb Raider and people will plop that baby in time and time again for the gun blazing, titty bouncing action. Aiming for a high reviewable score will only shackle your vid, so don't worry about it.

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 2:33 am

alternatefutures wrote:Reviewable is probably the shallowest of all the criteria. I mean, you're video could be as brilliantly put together as Citizen Cain, but just like the movie, have low replay value, or, it could be as base as a Tomb Raider and people will plop that baby in time and time again for the gun blazing, titty bouncing action. Aiming for a high reviewable score will only shackle your vid, so don't worry about it.

Ohhh... I disagree. What is the purpouse of any entertainment medium (and you can't deny that AMV are simply a form of entertainment), it's to entertain of course. And it's a simple fact that people who are entertained will go back and re-watch. Re-viewability is just a more objective way of saying "How entertaining is the vid?" Besides all that, I don't know about the rest of you, but personally I'm out here to make someone smile, or cry, or laugh, or something, just so long as they feel an emotion. (What are the rest of you out here for if it's not to create emotion?) I made a great example of a video that did just the opposite of what I set out to do, and it's really well timed and synched and all (if I do say so myself) but it's a really boring video (it's not released yet so don't even look, not that I think anyone would). I recommend, alt, that you examine your goals and come back and tell us why it is that you create AMV.

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 2:43 am

flint_the_dwarf wrote:My personal favorite of Kevin Caldwell's is his "Sleep Now" vid and that is extremely well synced (as good as "Believe") ans pretty short.

I don't think you want to put Kevin's name on "Sleep Now":
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/legacy/video.php?v=94

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 2:47 am

Ashton, I'm with alternatfutures on this one.

Why?

Well, because I don't think about the audience when I make my videos. To limit yourself to what you think people will like is a real shame, I think, partly because there is no way of telling what people will find entertaining and you partly because you shouldn't limit yourself to people's expectations.

My latest video does not have Reviewability at all, but it was a video I really really wanted to make because I thought it would be an interesting video and I enjoyed making it.

I couldn't give two craps as to whether it's entertainment or not.

"examine your goals and come back and tell us why it is that you create AMV."

Just because the goals are different doesn't mean they are bad. It seems that alternatefutures and I make music videos because the idea interests us and we enjoy the challenge of video editing. Making videos with the goal of having other people like them sounds like trying to win people's affections.

Sure I can understand the desire to make something entertaining but there's more to creativity than satisfying someone's desire to be entertained.

AnimeMusicVideos.org

What makes a video re-viewable?

IT'S THE SONG!