What's wrong with noobies? [Food for thought]

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 1:41 pm

Yes, I'm double-posting - flame away!! Witness the newest newbie crime and come to feed!

Seriously, I feel I must appologize for the 'scream' in my last post. Just reading it (as I hadn't realized exactly how upset I was when I wrote it) makes me cringe. Because I know how the newbies feel, afraid to speak out, afraid that they will anger the wrong non-noob and be smited. I don't want to be afraid, but if someone's neck must be offered to keep innocents (and YES some of the newbies being slaughtered out there do NOT deserve it - yet they are pounced on as much as the ones who do) from being treated horribly and feeling afraid to complain. I think I've the backbone to lick my wounds in private, rather than hiding altogether.

And I rather enjoy messing with people, I think I thrive on conflict.
^_^;

superspike · Post by **superspike** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 1:45 pm

well, when i got here nobody ever called me a nood or noobie ^_^

actually, Jace Tsunami said to me once "You Spike, were never really a n00b. You just showed up ok, and you never said anything stupid" to sume it up, thats what he said =]

i also think its bull that people call others that, but hey, what are ya gonna do, shit happens =P

Peace

Spike 8)

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 1:56 pm

I think I've only been called a noobie once, for necroposting...
:: hides head in sand ::
I didn't know it was wrong! There were no threads telling not to resurrect a thread that is old. I wanted to ask a question, and I searched for a thread addressing that question so I wouldn't get in trouble for asking a question that's already been asked - and told to find the thread where it was asked - so I searched for five hours until I found a thread addressing the problem. And it did *not* answer the problem. So I added to that thread rather than starting a new one (since I had read that it was a newbie crime to start a new one if one already existed) and *BAM* flamed for newbie ignorance. That's how I learned not to resurrect dead threads. Unless a newbie runs across a rant about dumb newbies who commit that crime, actually committing it and getting flamed is the only way to know not to do it. Talk about your trial and error, how about a little warning in advance? Not going to happen any time soon.

But I'm sure I would have been dubbed noobie (or maybe - if I'm lucky - a newbie) if I hadn't been cowed after that first harsh immediate flaming to the point where I wouldn't post anything. And I haven't (maybe one or two quiet little comments hoping to get past the watchful eyes of the non-noobs). So I can't complain about the title personally, and I can't complain about the treatment from a personal perspective since I've been hiding too much to experience it. But there are new members who don't know they should hide yet, and when they find out they find out quickly, violently, and it hurts to see.

I said sensitive newbies wouldn't last long, but I'm only sensitive when it comes to others. I can take flames, I get riled by them and seek a silent revenge. But others...I can imagine how some of those shocked people - posting right after they join - remain staring at the computer wondering what they've done wrong...should they try again...? And so they wait, looking around to see all the rants against their kind, all the people complaining about their stupidity, and it's stunning and painful.

superspike · Post by **superspike** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:04 pm

lol, its all just good wholesome fun ^_^

it isnt that bad, if you cant stand to be called that for an amount of time, then you probably deserve to be called a n00b. I mean, sticks 'n' stones man, sticks 'n' stones =\

Spike 8)

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:47 pm

I feel as though I should be filled with blatent hate and disgust...

I wonder...am I more of an ass to the "noobs" than I am to the "veterans?"

Alex, give me your opinion...

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:59 pm

I don't want to be hated, I want to be heard!

Yeah, seriously, I wasn't saying *you* since I haven't noticed you giving personal one-on-one flames to anyone in particular (yes, I'm stumped for ideas so I've been doing extensive surfing and post-reading, which is the cause of this thread, and I've noted the main ones, you weren't among them - I hadn't even caught the thread pointed out and linked to here until earlier).

And I need to qualify my argument anyway, since one of the supposed 'noobies' I was feeling sorry for turns out to be a member from back in 2002, an older member than even the people flaming and calling him a noobie. I guess time doesn't determine whether your a noob or not, it's whether you do something stupid or not - if you do you're a noob, if you don't you aren't. See? My mistake.

KhayotiK · Post by **KhayotiK** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 4:22 pm

Overall, people do get annoyed with constant question asking over easily answered things. Nobody truly wants to be in the company of a sheer dumbass, but there tend to be many of them. I'm not quite sure what exactly sparked your ranting fire, but I'm sure it's justified in your mind. Just also realise that a flamed noob will stick out more than just a normal joining member. That being said, I see a lot of those who get ridiculed sticking around because they've probably found their nitch. And as for the arguing, most "veterans" flame the newcomers out of entertainment, not malice or hatred, and if the two opposing members rub the wrong way an argument ensues, but that's nothing special. People will argue, veteran or not, it's guaranteed. I was not assaulted with a barrage of flames as a newcomer because I tried to refrain from making myself out to be a dumbass (right off the bat, anyways.)

AtomicWeezleman · Post by **AtomicWeezleman** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 4:33 pm

the real question is

Newbs, wtf is going on here??? Where are they coming from, the LP factory?? Free newb with every episode of DBZ!!

Newbs, what right with them??

KhayotiK · Post by **KhayotiK** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 4:35 pm

AtomicWeezleman wrote:the real question is

Newbs, wtf is going on here??? Where are they coming from, the LP factory?? Free newb with every episode of DBZ!!

Newbs, what right with them??

lmao

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 4:38 pm

Depending on your definition of a 'Newb,' that's a dangerous question to ask. If Newbs are new-comers, then you were one once. In which case, asking what's right with them really begs a different question altogether.
8)

As for 'where are they coming from,' well, where did you come from when you joined? *Why* now, in such a rush is a better question, and one I can answer. The Carrot. They have a free download and upload host now, for anyone who joins. A guaranteed source for downloading (unlike direct links which go out all the time, or messy indirect links) really draws people in. And knowing they'll have a place to put their amvs encourages poor people to join and make amvs.
[-not to mention the summer 'out of school' angle-]