Anyone worried what RIAA's latest action will do to AMV's?

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Post by koronoru » Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:18 pm

WhereNext wrote:It is a scare tactic, because they legally cant take any legal action against people on peer to peer networks, they can only take legal action if you posted the songs like on a website for the masses to receive.
I'm sorry, but that just isn't true. The Berne Convention on copyright, to which the U.S.A., Canada, and most industrialized nations are signatory, forbids unauthorized communication to the public. There is no special exception for "one to one" communication - one member of the public, even if it's your friend, is still the public for the purposes of copyright law. I think the law you're talking about later in your comment is the Audio Home Recording Act, but that does not say you're allowed to give away copies to your friends - it says you're allowed to make copies for your own personal use, e.g. taping a CD to listen to in your car. In Canada we have a similar law written into our copyright act.

If you copy an audio CD and listen to it yourself, that's legal. If you make an AMV and watch it yourself, that's probably legal too - although at least in Canada, it's already starting to get into a grey area because our AHRA-equivalent law actually only applies to music. If you show the AMV to others it's a darker shade of grey; and if you give copies of your AMV to others, even not for profit, that's definitely copyright infringement. Whether you do it on a Web site like this one, or a peer-to-peer network, is completely irrelevant.

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Post by rubyeye » Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:22 pm

The RIAA are a bunch of F*&King Hypocrites:

They want to prevent you from ripping CDs and making MP3s,
but they produce a line of products and market things to help you PLAY YOUR MP3s.

There is not word to describe this level of brainlessness!!

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Post by Kai Stromler » Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:36 pm

Actually, there kind of is: fallback.

They want to keep taking tons of money from people for bloated CDs of crappy assembly-line 'music' as long as possible, but if this becomes impossible, they'll be safe if they can take slightly less money from those who are technically sophisticated enough to break free of their limits.

I'm sure that you're just as familiar with the only way to end the RIAA once and for all as I am: to just stop buying music from member labels entirely. They themselves keep a list of who not to buy from. Vote with your wallet. Convince others to do likewise.

And after that, get on Relapse's case to get the hell out of this ring of whores. You'd think that the truest label in the underground would have enough integrity not to go along with this crap.

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Post by Cole » Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:37 pm

AznRAVEr1022 wrote:FUCK THE RIAA
You know what's sad is that that's about as eloquent as anybody can get about the RIAA. Sure, you can expound on their stupidy, reason out why so many of the things they do are incredibly ludicrous, and suggest more intelligent solutions for them, but in the end, AznRAVEr1022 pretty much sums it up in those three words.

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Post by Nappy » Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:15 pm

Someones gonna hack their site again I bet XD

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Post by The Non-Professional » Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:17 pm

*puts on flame protecting suit*

I think its a somewhat good thing, I mean for AMV creators its always suggested to buy the CD and not download for quality reasons if your gonna make an AMV with it, also im betting about 75% or more of the newbs who join use the downloaded songs for their AMVs. If the RIAA goes throuogh with there actions to shut down the p2p programs they cant get the music they need to make those god awful videos clutering up the datebase. It is a bad thing tho caus i dont use p2p servers to get the muisc you hear on the radio or TV but underground music you cant find anywhere else. So even still its a big lose small win situation. Whadya gonna do, kill everyone at RIAA? :roll:

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Post by SSJVegita0609 » Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:25 pm

The Non-Professional wrote:*puts on flame protecting suit*

I think its a somewhat good thing, I mean for AMV creators its always suggested to buy the CD and not download for quality reasons if your gonna make an AMV with it, also im betting about 75% or more of the newbs who join use the downloaded songs for their AMVs. If the RIAA goes throuogh with there actions to shut down the p2p programs they cant get the music they need to make those god awful videos clutering up the datebase. It is a bad thing tho caus i dont use p2p servers to get the muisc you hear on the radio or TV but underground music you cant find anywhere else. So even still its a big lose small win situation. Whadya gonna do, kill everyone at RIAA? :roll:
But you see, what we're worried about here is the RIAA cracking down on AMV creators, not for using downloaded songs, but for distributing songs on the internet in the form of amvs. :P
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Post by paizuri » Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:30 pm

SSJVegita0609 wrote:But you see, what we're worried about here is the RIAA cracking down on AMV creators, not for using downloaded songs, but for distributing songs on the internet in the form of amvs. :P
Yes, because I like to download 50 MB videos just so I can listen to the 3-4 minute songs. Then again the RIAA in general doesn't seem to understand what's going on anyway.
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Post by The Non-Professional » Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:54 pm

yea but its not like you can burn a AMV to a CD and pop it in your CD player and listen to it, we arent actually distributing the song its self. I see no reason to worry.

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Post by B3 » Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:01 pm

In my opinion the RIAA doesn't want to get rid of mp3's... they just want to be the ones controlling it. You see, they want the profits, glory, and whatnot. Not everyone else....
I guess I should say something witty here right...? Too bad... :P

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