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am I missing something?

Post by hakaryuu » Sun Aug 11, 2002 5:09 pm

I'm having trouble exporting from Premiere. This is my second AMV. My first one exported fine in Huffy, but I'm sure it's because the file was MUCH smaller then. Anyway, whenever I export, after the first minute, the screen turns orange, although occaisonally I'll get a frame here or there, but not always the correct frame. I assume it's because of how large the file is (I have about 12 Gigs of VOB files). So, I searched the forums and came across a discussion of a Premiere frameserver from videotools.net. I downloaded it and it seemed to install okay. The plug-in is in the adobe plugin folder and the wrapper codec shows up in the hardware devices. However, when I go to Premiere, the frameserver tool option does not show up in the export dialog box. I only have the LE version of Premiere that came pre-bundled with the computer. Is that the problem, or could I have missed something? One other thing about the frameserver package, I can't unzip the data1.cab file. Winzip won't recognize it. But I don't think what's in there would be the reason for the plugin not loading into Premiere. Sorry this is so long winded. Other info, if needed: my OS is winXP, 512MB RAM and the D drive is NTFS .
Thanks for any insights!

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Post by segaismysavior » Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:29 pm

Though I may not have your solution, it seems like you may have a problem similiar to what I had recently. I had no problems outputting a minute or less of footage to HuffYUV, but if I went above a min it would freeze and output slowly and incorrectly.

The solution to that was to update my video drivers, though I am not sure if that permanently fixed the problem, but it did work the 2 times that I output 1 min 20 secs of my project after the update.

Check to see if there is an update for your card and start there, if there is none, then you may want to revert to the previously avaliable drivers and test them. That could take quite a bit of effort, but I do recommend it.

Also, it may be helpful to post your video card and what file type and compression your clips are (I assume HuffYUV, as you stated that was your output).

As for the videoserver thing, I haven't tried it on my newer system yet, but on my previous one the results were much less than satisfactory. I seriously doubt it's worth the effort to get it to work, as it produced crappy quality output on my previous tests. And I do believe it is possible that LE would prevent it from working correctly, but I'm certainly no programmer for Adobe to give you any true answer.

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Post by jbone » Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:38 pm

If you're trying to export a video greater than 2GB in size on a disk running the FAT32 file system, you may get errors like you're describing.

The only way to export videos that large is to either change to the NTFS file system, or to export then into two sub-2GB files and combine them later.
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Re: am I missing something?

Post by FurryCurry » Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:49 pm

hakaryuu wrote: Other info, if needed: my OS is winXP, 512MB RAM and the D drive is NTFS .
Thanks for any insights!
jbone wrote:If you're trying to export a video greater than 2GB in size on a disk running the FAT32 file system, you may get errors like you're describing.
Umm, jbone?


Are you sure you have the latest version of HuffYUV installed?
Do you have all your pixel aspect ratios set to 1.0?

That's all I can think of, off the bat.
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Post by segaismysavior » Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:53 pm

I think the NTFS thing was already covered, it is in my case and they mentioned their D drive as NTFS, not to mention running XP (though theoretically that could be FAT32), so I assume NTFS is what they're outputting to.

Then again, I need not state what happens with assumptions... :shock:

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Post by jbone » Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:54 pm

The other guy didn't mention how his hard drive was partitioned.
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Post by hakaryuu » Mon Aug 12, 2002 2:32 pm

Thanks everyone for trying to help me figure this out. My procedure was 1) ripped the DVDs with clad, 2)converted the VOB with DVD2AVI and 3) got them into Premiere with the MPEG2DEC script. My pixel ratio is 1 and I can view okay (it's choppy on the timeline also. I can't watch the whole thing on the timeline. Probably because the compressor in the project settings is Huffy?)
Anyway, I've tried exporting in as a Microsoft AVI and as QT and I've tried using Huffy(2.1.1), DivX 5.0 and MPEG4. It all goes whacko after about a minute.
In term of my drives, my D is NTFS (where everything except Premiere is located and where I'm outputting to), but my C drive is FAT32. Should I convert that over to NTFS as well?
I just tried exporting a 1 min 30 second segment, but at 1 min, it messed up. Maybe I should just do 50 sec segments. In that case, I should not export audio with it, right? And should combine everything in TMPGEnc? And just forget about the Premiere frameserver for now?
Thanks again for responding!! :D

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Post by mofisto » Mon Aug 12, 2002 6:32 pm

Alright well here is my thought on the subject, since I am working with AVS scripts, I am learning a bit about them. It would occur to me that maybe the problem you are running into is that, you are asking to much of your computer. Are you using a single AVS script to import your VOBs? If you are then you are putting way to much strain on your computer. I would suggest using multiple scripts in import either certain VOBS or you could even go as far as certain scripts for individual chapters or whatnot This should elminate some stress on the system. Using the AVS script and the MPEG2DEC.DLL is going to be choppy unless you're running it in the holodeck of the enterprise. But I would guess that if you used multiple script Premiere would treat them more as multiple sources and make better use of memory in order to work better. Think of it this way. You have an avs script importing a single DVD or about 4gb of space, now you assemble your clips and what not. Premiere in order to work with this has to basically memorize the entire 4gb to output the clips. If you break it down by using multiple scrips, instead of having to access a single 4gb file. You will theoretically access only a small say like 1gb file to export the clip.

Anyways the scripter I am writing will include features about what I am talking about. I completed the basic version and then started on the advanced using almost all of the AVS script commands, or at least the majority of them that I can understand. Check my journal for updates on that.

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