Gundam wing anyone???

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Post by Eddard_179 » Wed Jul 09, 2003 2:15 am

Gundam Seed rocks, but doesn't beat Gundam Wing which is my favorite also.

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Post by Warpwind » Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:12 am

Maybe I should ask this here since there are a lot of Gundam fans in here already...

Can some give me a basic rundown of how the various Gundam series tie togeather?
are some of the characters in more than one series or is each series "stand alone"?

and if no one can be bothered just point me to a decent site

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Post by Bebop0083 » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:10 am

out of my knowlege so far none of them really run together. except for may be a few like the 00 ones mainly 0079-0083. im not a huge Gundam fan myself but ive liked what series ive seen so far. probably another Gundam fan can explain better.

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Post by Dark_YuGiOh » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:25 am

Well I think G gundam and some others are alternate universe ones

....which means none of them run together with 0080 and gundam wing
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Post by Bebop0083 » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:29 am

Gundam Wing reminds me of the original Gundam just as a spinoff though. cause there are both guys in there that have masks. Char and Zechs i think thats his name. havent watched the series in a while.

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Post by Dark_YuGiOh » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:32 am

Bebop0083 wrote:Gundam Wing reminds me of the original Gundam just as a spinoff though. cause there are both guys in there that have masks. Char and Zechs i think thats his name. havent watched the series in a while.

I don't like the original gundam...I think its the same thing over and over...(protect the white base) ahhhh
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Post by Bebop0083 » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:35 am

yah but if it werent for the orginal Gundam where would the other Gundam series be?? but yah the plotline for orignal Gundam was kinda blah though. i only watched half of the series until CN took it off on its original run. they were almost done the seires too! but when they put it back on i didnt feel like watching it.

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Post by Dark_YuGiOh » Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:08 pm

Have you ever seen how gundam wing is like a soap opera??
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Post by Heero_Yuy84 » Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:31 pm

Warpwind wrote:Maybe I should ask this here since there are a lot of Gundam fans in here already...

Can some give me a basic rundown of how the various Gundam series tie togeather?
are some of the characters in more than one series or is each series "stand alone"?
OK...here's how they break down (roughly)

First, there's the Universal Century Timeline, for lack of a better description, this is the main timeline that kicked it all off
Series encompassed by this timeline (and, just for the Hell of it, some recurring characters listed):
-Mobile Suit Gundam
-Gundam: 08th MS Team
-Gundam 0080: War In the Pocket
-Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory (recurring: Haman Khan (while earlier in the timeline, Haman first appears in Z Gundam, which was made before this.))
-Z Gundam (recurring: Amuro, Bright, Char, Hayato, Frau, Mirai, Sayla, Kai, Katz, Letz, Kikka, and Haro)
-ZZ Gundam (recurring: Bright, Haman, Hayato, Haro, Astonage, Torres, Yazan, Shinta, Qum, and more I'm prob blanking on (I confess I've yet to see ZZ))
-Gundam: Char's Counterattack (recurring: Char, Amuro, Bright, Mirai, Hathaway, Haro, Cheimin, and Astonage)
-Gundam F91 (from here on out, outside of Haro, there's no other familiar faces...Tomino decided to take the UC timeline in a new direction from here)
-V Gundam

Next, we move into the alternate timelines, these are really, in no way connected to UC (in spite of this however, Wing has the feel of being a UC retread, and Turn A was made as a 'What if?' for if the timelines were all connected)

have the Future Century:
-Mobile Fighter G Gundam

Then, After Colony
-Gundam Wing
-Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz (not really much since listing the recurring chars, 9/10s of the series cast.)

After War
-Gundam X

Correct Century
-Turn A Gundam

Cosmic Era
-Gundam SEED

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Post by Toecutter » Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:31 pm

The original Mobile Suit Gundam reminds me of a more violent Mickey Mouse Club, since you litterally have a mecha carrier/space battleship White Base being run by a bunch of angst-driven teenagers. The mecha designs are also pretty crappy (I mean, c'mon, the Zaku and Zaku II don't look realistic enough until 0083).

I liked Gundam Wing, because it's mecha were more detailed (I especially love the OZ-MS-07 Tragos Mobile Armor). However, the philosophy is geared towards little kids, and follows the same old "save the world from the plummetting debris" plotline. The minute some anime series clears a climax that doesn't have to do with hurtling meteorites shaped like tetrahedrons, thermonuclear devices, or some major doomsday event, is the day anime will be completely accepted in America.

I'd have to say Gundam 0083 is my favorite. It's just long enough that you don't ask yourself "Can they drag this out any longer?", like Gundam Wing. Also, the mecha are just cool (the specialized mobile armors GP-03 A1, and the one Gato pilots is awesome!).

Char's Counterattack is pretty cool. I haven't watched enough Mobile Suit Gundam to see the development and use of fin funnels until then, so I was a little confused for a while. But again, the plot is the same old "the Earthlings got you down? Hit it with a rock!".
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