Eva Renewal Box - it's here!

[Daio Kaji]

To those lucky bastards (burn!) owning the set; I'm wondering about one more thing before I preorder the first 2 renewal discs; Did they go all the way and make them dual layered? Kinda disliked the loss of quality ADV putting 4 eps & 4 audio tracks on single layered discs gave.

speaking of audio tracks, what audio tracks are in the renewal set? (those of u who own the eva renewal set (waves angry fists))
the original had english/japanese/spanish (rok)/french
do we get any more/less besides surround sound?

[AbsoluteDestiny]

Japanese DD2.0, Japanese DD5.1

It's a Japanese release - the Japanese original didnt have other languages.

[the Black Monarch]

Let's jump on the logic train real quick.

What is an anamorphic dvd? An anamorphic dvd is a dvd in which a widescreen image is smashed into 720x480 pixels and tagged so that your DVD player either drops every fourth line and adds black borders on playback, or stretches the image out to it's original size if you have a widescreen TV.

Now.
How in the hell does the DVD player know what size to stretch it to? You know, with all these weird aspect ratios going on???
GUESS WHAT
the only two AR flags in existance for DVD are 16:9 or 4:3
LOGICALLY, this tells us that if a movie is anamorphic, it has to be resized to 16:9 to get the correct image, or else it would be distorted on every dvd player in existance. Obviously it's the author's job to encode extra black bars into the video stream for like a 1.85:1 movie. In terms black monarch can understand, that means, if you have an anamorphic movie, all you have to do to get the right AR is resize to 16:9. Pick your favorite 16:9 resolution, 856x480, 720x400, 640x360, and boom, magic, your ticket out of AR hell.

THE FUCK?!?!

Do you mean to tell me that anamorphic widescreen DVDs don't play back at the right aspect ratio on a TV set?

That's pretty fucked up.

Now I hate anamorphic sources even more.

[AbsoluteDestiny]

*bashes head against wall*


OF COURSE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT ASPECT ON A TV! As Tab has already explained, DVD players see the tag and adjust the display to give the correct aspect ratio, whilst the DVD maintains its 720x480 source without needing to reduce resolution by encoding huge black bars.

It's really very very simple.

[the Black Monarch]

I'm sorry, but I don't see how you can display a 1.85:1 movie on a 16:9 screen at its proper ratio without adding black bars or cutting parts of the image off. The math just doesn't work!

I got a question for ya. Does the Renewal box have the Director's Cut footage?

[Jebadia]

yes

[AbsoluteDestiny]

I'm sorry, but I don't see how you can display a 1.85:1 movie on a 16:9 screen at its proper ratio without adding black bars or cutting parts of the image off.

That's the thing, anamopphic 1.85:1 sources DO have black bars but they are black bars that are not as large as they would at a 4:3 aspect ratio. It still gets stretched out, and by the same amount, but non 16:9 sources have black bars to compensate just like 4:3 sources do, but there is still an aspect ratio that need to be changed by the tv and that is always by the same amount.

Get an anamorphic hollywood movie that has a 2.35:1 ratio or something and run it through dvd2avi. You'll see that it has black bars but the image still looks squished because it's a 16:9 image using black bars in the same way that 4:3 images do.

I got a question for ya. Does the Renewal box have the Director's Cut footage?

Yeah. It actually has the original TV versions and the Directors Cut versions seperately (or so I can tell from the inlay, I havent watched that disc yet).

[the Black Monarch]

But my anamorphic 1.85:1 movies don't have black bars... at all...

[Jebadia]

Wasn't Mononoke 1.85:1? and it had black bars

[the Black Monarch]

I dunno, but Aliens and Artificial Intelligence don't, and they're 1.85:1

You cannot make another post so soon after your last, please try again in a short while

Suck it, Trebek.