Why not focus on P2P hosting?

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Post by bloodyfang » Tue Aug 13, 2002 6:09 pm

p2p hosting ............*snickers*
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Post by mexicanjunior » Tue Aug 13, 2002 6:15 pm

ErMaC wrote:I actually tried out doing WinMX sharing just earlier this week. I refuse to share on Kazaa or Morpheus since they both have spyware attached to them, and WinMX actually gets a lot of traffic in both the US and Japan so it fit me pretty well.
Kazaalite = no spyware

http://www.kazaalite.com/

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Post by Sidicas » Tue Aug 13, 2002 6:47 pm

"AdAware" does a pretty darn good job at getting rid of both Spy and AdWare...Unfortunately the new version of Kazaa is pretty darn good at getting rid of Anti-Spyware by checking to see if certain Ad and spyware services are installed and functioning. If not, Kazaa doesn't start.
Haven't heard of Kazaalite before. possibly another program that was built from reverse engineering/packet sniffing the Fast Track network... These projects never last very long 'cause with every new version of Kazaa they change the encryption. the giFT project is working on their own OpenFT network which is basically the Kazaa network without the encryption only prob is nobody uses it so it ain't goin anywhere fast....Anyway, back on Kazaalite....the pop-up ads certainly don't leave a good first impression on me.
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Post by mexicanjunior » Tue Aug 13, 2002 6:51 pm

Sidicas wrote:"Haven't heard of Kazaalite before. possibly another program that was built from reverse engineering/packet sniffing the Fast Track network... These projects never last very long 'cause with every new version of Kazaa they change the encryption. the giFT project is working on their own OpenFT network which is basically the Kazaa network without the encryption only prob is nobody uses it so it ain't goin anywhere fast....Anyway, back on Kazaalite....the pop-up ads certainly don't leave a good first impression on me.
I've been using KL for about a couple of months now and haven't had a problem finding anything I needed yet. ^_^ The pop ups on the site are annoying but it beats the pop ups I used to get when using normal Kazaa. =P

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Post by bloodyfang » Tue Aug 13, 2002 6:55 pm

I used KaZaA-lite for about 5 months.


But sometimes if i played a file while dling it then started listening to a dif file bieng dled it wouldn't let me preview the song/ vid file and sometimes even froze up.


went to the latest version of KaZaA and haven't had a problem since.


I'll probably reinstall KaZaA-Lite after a while once i get tired of the ad and spyware.
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Post by Sidicas » Tue Aug 13, 2002 8:13 pm

Sidicas wrote:Anyway, back on Kazaalite....the pop-up ads certainly don't leave a good first impression on me.
Wow...It is really sweet...clearly an hack though...Heh they should advertise "Back in the day you used to be able to download illegal stuff..Nowadays not only can you download illegal stuff, but you can do it with an illegal program!" <crowd goes wild with cheers>
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Post by ErMaC » Wed Aug 14, 2002 2:18 am

I do not take part in software that involves spyware because I do not want to support said company or encourage them to continue their use of spyware. Thus even if I can remove the spyware, I do not want to contribute to a network of computers which the majority of people are running spyware on.

Think about it - if my videos are being shared on Kazaa, the majority of people searching them are using a client riddled with spyware and adware. Why put them through that if I can just let them use Internet Explorer, or even a commandline FTP program?

Also - finding P2P clients for alternative operating systems is sometimes a difficult task, thus I'd prefer to use an open standard such as FTP.

And all of these arguments still don't solve the fact that P2P serving isn't terribly reliable, and the clients they require use up more CPU cycles than an FTP client or server.

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Post by AMVUserII » Wed Aug 14, 2002 1:51 pm

ErMaC wrote:I do not take part in software that involves spyware because I do not want to support said company or encourage them to continue their use of spyware. Thus even if I can remove the spyware, I do not want to contribute to a network of computers which the majority of people are running spyware on.

Think about it - if my videos are being shared on Kazaa, the majority of people searching them are using a client riddled with spyware and adware. Why put them through that if I can just let them use Internet Explorer, or even a commandline FTP program?

Also - finding P2P clients for alternative operating systems is sometimes a difficult task, thus I'd prefer to use an open standard such as FTP.

And all of these arguments still don't solve the fact that P2P serving isn't terribly reliable, and the clients they require use up more CPU cycles than an FTP client or server.
hmn.........Good Point

But i've always looked at P2P apps especially those with spyware/adware in a "Pros vs. Cons" type of perspective.

You know I see what can I gain from such an app versus what disadvantages are there in p2p apps especially those that involve adware/spyware.

Way I look at it i'm not too distracted by the company having spyware/adware on their apps, and even if i may be "supporting" them by using the app its not to much of a "big" deal for me in "some" cases cause I maybe be able to find something i really want. And without that p2p app i may have never gotten it. =)

Plus I can make sure that the spyware/adware they include can be rid of off my PC through software such as 'AD-AWARE'. And also there are some advantages to using p2p such as in "some" apps there is a wide array of files one may not 'normally' find browsing the internet.

But the reality as the way I look at it is most p2p apps aren't that good only a few of them are worth even downloading and even then you may not even like what you found. Only a few are actually useful some especially useful to an AMV Creator.

Although I agree with you on one point; they're not exactly the most reliable software out there. But its a change from finding stuff you want to download via internet searching.

Also AMV distribution is a nice idea through p2p apps. It may not be as good as FTP or individual hosting but its a nice addition.

And also some carry unique features uncommon in most internet apps; advantages that other apps out there don't have or are weakly designed with.

I guess in the end its really in the perspective of how you look at it.

Its like that cup of milk thing.

A cup is filled with milk to the half-way point.

Is it half-empty of half-full?

How do you see it. =)


Now I'm not trying to convince anyone here that they should use P2P apps, but just simply adding my opinion adding my opinion. =)
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