WHY?

OtakuForLife · Post by **OtakuForLife** » Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:09 pm

why is it the low grade AMV's the one's I wouldn't pick as my favorite
out of my own creations gets liked by everyone?

Maybe I need to make AMV's that I would personally hate
to get anyone to notice them... Anyone understand what
I'm talking about?

If I'm incoherent right now. I just watched all of FLCL in one night
with my firend Stacy. I now understood a good
80% of it took about a good 5 full-viewings.

"it's the gibson 1961"

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:22 pm

Most professional novelists will tell you that their favorite works are usually the ones ignored by their readers. The ones their fans love best tend to be ones they don't really care for. And having people rant and rave about how good a book is when you would rather they enjoyed your personal favorite tends to make you hate that book even more. I've had this happen with fiction, so I know it's true.

When you put this to amvs, you have to add in stories and editing skills. I've found a lot of my early vids (horribly edited, sad, really) are favorites of my target viewers. The stories are oriented right at them, and most were dangerous when it comes to amvs - more original, not so normal. But I was bad at editing, so I hate them now - the quality is crap compared to my newer work. That doesn't stop the people they were aimed at from loving them better than some of my nicer looking vids. As you get better at editing, I find you try and target the general audience more, and the stories can suffer from that.

Then again, if your early vids were the same (storywise) as your new vids, it could merely be a case like what I mentioned with novels. The author's favorite is the one that makes sense to him, the one he put his soul into, the one he can't imagine possibly being better. And because it's so personal other people won't appreciate it like he does, so it goes unnoticed. Sadly, this is a common thing. You have it with most creations that involve art or storytelling. Fiction or amvs - you get the same thing with both.

OtakuForLife · Post by **OtakuForLife** » Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:28 pm

wow, that was so well written and understandable ::claps::

I understand the position your making ,but, can't the artist overcome
video stereo typing. Thorugh making a more emotional powerful
or well edited amv?

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:42 pm

OtakuForLife wrote:wow, that was so well written and understandable ::claps::

Heh, thanks.

English major. ^_~

OtakuForLife wrote:I understand the position your making ,but, can't the artist overcome video stereo typing. Thorugh making a more emotional powerful or well edited amv?

I don't really know. If you have an idea that appeals to everyone, or a majority of viewers, and you have the editing skills to pull the idea off, you'll get a good response. If you try something too different from the norm, but have good skills, you'll get a good response from the small target audience you made the work for.

Trying to use emotional appeal is very difficult. Unless you're doing humor oriented toward most people, like slap-stick Love Hina type vids, emotional vids depend on the viewers. I've seen a lot of attempted 'romance' vids that failed miserably. It wasn't the editing - it was a combination of poor storytelling and the fact that I didn't care for the stories or the characters. If you're relying on emotion to attract viewers, you have to either have a wide audience in mind - with general emotions that appeal to everyone (friendship, death, hate, love, humor), or target the video toward a narrow audience (yaoi, yuri, some gothic and dark genres, etc).

There isn't a good rule to make vids by because people vary too much. But I can tell you, if you're vid relies on a story or emotion that the majority of people aren't going to feel or appreciate, you have to make a *killer* vid with excellent editing and/or effects before people will give it credit. Because if the story doesn't appeal to viewers, the response comes down to visuals alone. I'm a story person myself, so I'll watch the effect vids, but I'd rather see a poorly edited story-vid than something that looks like abstract art.

OtakuForLife · Post by **OtakuForLife** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 8:51 am

Yeah, I should try my possible best editing and hopefully appeal
to ether the audiences base emotions or try with the storytelling
but use a ton of fx's to help the audience understand the
overall message... mmm somthing to think about. Hopefully
my next amv will be stunning enough to fall into the former
of those 2 catagories. My last parody came out kind of chessy
but some how gained much more attention then my other vids.
Maybe if I anylise why that worked, I could find a more workable
concept.

OmniStrata · Post by **OmniStrata** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:25 am

I know exactly what you mean!

People keep pouncing on "Kagome's Heart" when I KNOW for a fact that it sux major arse...

The only reason I upped it was so that people would stop bugging me...

/me cries again

OtakuForLife · Post by **OtakuForLife** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:43 am

geez, a chessy omni amv?

"Cool I wanna see" -- This is Otakudom

OmniStrata · Post by **OmniStrata** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:02 pm

OtakuForLife wrote:geez, a chessy omni amv?

"Cool I wanna see" -- This is Otakudom

Don't say I didn't warn you...

[prepares for flaming suckage]

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... php?v=4915

I'm 98% certain it's just the freakin' song people like to hear...

Nemoxs · Post by **Nemoxs** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:03 pm

How did you get the avi's to play on a p2 300mhz!?

I have an amd and they wont play right ~_~;;

OmniStrata · Post by **OmniStrata** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:17 pm

Once again, I guess I'm just lucky cause that vid ladies and gentlemen, is a DIVX editted vid with NO filtering usage on it!

/me cries