microsoft windows movie maker 2

Katsumi_AMVs · Post by **Katsumi_AMVs** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 9:53 am

I agree ^_^

WMV files are good ,and if you gonna UL here in org , should be better if you save your vid between 512 ~ 768 kbps ,or save to DVAvi(NTSC) and then use Tmpegenc or similar to reencode to mpeg1 or mpeg2 or compress to DivX or Xvid ,the results are very good

uhh I know that cuz my brother make his vid on WMM2 and ask me to help him to reencode to mpeg 1 ,the result you can check with his vid ,here is the link :

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=21817

SQ · Post by SQ » Tue Aug 19, 2003 3:40 pm

In WMM1 AND 2 you can export to an uncompressed AVI.

Click File, "Save Movie", and then when it suggests your format, go in the dropdown box and scroll all the way down and select "other". Then another drop down box should appear/be highlighted, and with that you can chose to export as DV AVI or someother AVI, my memory doesn't serve right now.

Anyway, do that, then use Vdub to compress it.

Cole · Post by **Cole** » Tue Aug 19, 2003 6:34 pm

I tried moviemaker 2 once a while back, but for a reason I can't remember, I got rid of it and went back to 1.1. I know I didn't like it because of the way it captures, but I can't remember specifically what. The way I get footage from some of my DVD's (the non-copyright protected ones) is to plug my DVD player into my video camera and use movie maker to capture just the scenes I want. It's alot faster than ripping DVD's, unless they're protected, then you have to rip 'em. What exactly does movie maker 2 do better than 1?

squidgy · Post by **squidgy** » Tue Aug 19, 2003 9:03 pm

oh, general transition effects come with it now, and when its segmenting clips this time, you dont end up with a trillion clips for a single episode, it just produces less clips per movie. this in turn means that it also segment clips faster.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Tue Aug 19, 2003 9:31 pm

SQ wrote:In WMM1 AND 2 you can export to an uncompressed AVI.

Click File, "Save Movie", and then when it suggests your format, go in the dropdown box and scroll all the way down and select "other". Then another drop down box should appear/be highlighted, and with that you can chose to export as DV AVI or someother AVI, my memory doesn't serve right now.

Anyway, do that, then use Vdub to compress it.

This works fine for version 1.0, but *don't* do it with 2.0. The framerate is not variable, so if you've used any special effects to change the speed of your clips (slow down by half, speed up, etc) they will all get crushed into 30fps and the audio will be effected the same. Of course, you don't want to export with audio intact, but either way your timeline will *not* be the same once it's sent out.

And last I checked, the avi produced by both versions cannot be edited in VirtualDub without adding some sort of viewer. You *can* use some mpg converters with the avi file from wmm 1.0, though, and that works nicely if you don't have a way to combine your timeline in something else. I've found that complicated timelines in version 2.0 are too large to be exported in a single file - you have to cut them up and send the footage out as separate files, then combine them again. Wmm has a lot of bugs, but 2.0 has more than the first - as if to make up for the nice effects.

squidgy · Post by **squidgy** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:48 pm

so what quality shoul we be using with wmm 2? i created one recently,pretty high quality, just under two minutes. it worked out to become a 24MB file. good as the clip was, even for a broadbander, 24MB for less than two minutes footage is a little steep. admitedly the clip had excellent quality (looked about divx quality fullscreened.) recommendd quality?

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:13 pm

If it's short, or it doesn't have many clips and effects, you can produce just fine. It's only with the complicated longer timelines that you'll have trouble exporting. Still, people don't like wmv much as a rule, no matter how pretty the quality is.

Dirk_Temporo · Post by **Dirk_Temporo** » Sat Aug 23, 2003 8:52 pm

I have the XP version of WMM(whichever that is) and sometimes it will crash when I play certain parts of certain videos I made. One of them was a Final Fantasy video. It always crashed at the same part in the video. The same scene. And whenever I tried to record the video, it would crash. The same thing is happening with a Samurai X video I'm making. I brought the Final Fantasy video project over a friend's house and it recorded fine. Anyone know what's wrong?

BTW, he has the ME version of WMM.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sun Aug 24, 2003 12:49 am

Dirk_Temporo wrote:I have the XP version of WMM(whichever that is) and sometimes it will crash when I play certain parts of certain videos I made. One of them was a Final Fantasy video. It always crashed at the same part in the video. The same scene. And whenever I tried to record the video, it would crash. The same thing is happening with a Samurai X video I'm making. I brought the Final Fantasy video project over a friend's house and it recorded fine. Anyone know what's wrong?

What's in the scene that makes it crash? If you're talking about the timeline you've made (and you're using 2.0 - that's the version with effects, 1.0 has none), it could have to do with the effects in that particular section. But when you say 'crash' do you mean it locks up and you have to reset it, or that it cancels itself (during export) and won't produce the vid?

If it's in the timeline, with no effects and it just stops on a certain scene it could have to do with the source - an error in your source file (like at a certain clip where the original compression messed up) can kill wmm. I'd try playing your original source file (avi?) in windows media player or winamp - if it can't play or it halts at the same spot, you'll know it's a problem and you can just rerip that footage.

If you're importing vids you've put together somewhere else and trying to play them *inside* wmm, then you're killing yourself already. There are codec issues (some won't play in wmm) and all sorts of bugs that can come from trying this. But I don't know if that's what you mean here.

Either way, check the source. If you're using game footage, try playing the original avi file in a regular movie player and see if it goes through all the way. Check the codec you used and see if it works with wmm - hufyuv is error prone (too large a source for wmm to handle, good quality but you'll have trouble with it), but lead compression (old, not too bad) works fine and gives small size (and okay quality if you're producing to wmv.

Just tell me more about the source, the nature of the clip (or frames) the program is getting caught on, and what you mean by 'crash'.

Dirk_Temporo wrote:BTW, he has the ME version of WMM.

Who is the 'he' - you mean the last person I talked to? I've used the milenium version if that's what you mean by ME, and it's basically the same as wmm 1.0 - fewer crashes and no effects.

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Sun Aug 24, 2003 2:01 am

This works fine for version 1.0, but *don't* do it with 2.0. The framerate is not variable, so if you've used any special effects to change the speed of your clips (slow down by half, speed up, etc) they will all get crushed into 30fps and the audio will be effected the same. Of course, you don't want to export with audio intact, but either way your timeline will *not* be the same once it's sent out.

yeah, i noticed that too. its a real bitch.

so what quality shoul we be using with wmm 2? i created one recently,pretty high quality, just under two minutes. it worked out to become a 24MB file. good as the clip was, even for a broadbander, 24MB for less than two minutes footage is a little steep. admitedly the clip had excellent quality (looked about divx quality fullscreened.) recommendd quality?

i store my vids on angelfire, which holds up to 20 MB. so 768 kb/s will suffice for vids under around 3 1/2 mintues, whereas 512 kb/s will keep them under 20 mb for longer songs. if you dont have to worry about that limitation, that as you go up in bitrate, either the video or audio quality will improve.

so far as wmm2 crashing, i noticed that it crashed much less after i switched to a better vid card. nonetheless, save often (like after every change you make) and make backups.