SpPanda wants back in. Should we let him?

Org Profile · Post by **Phade** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:39 pm

Hey,

I just had high hopes, I guess, giving the benefit of the doubt to the intellegence of forum members.

Phade.

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:45 pm

is there a way to work polls around post count or %?

Instead of everyone voting and arguing, maybe polls can be sued again in the future if only REAL frequenters can vote.

Jebadia · Post by **Jebadia** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:47 pm

We're an unruly mob! We're an unruly mob!!!

Actually didn't go from demands..then to insults?

Maximo · Post by **Maximo** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:47 pm

I dunno, i think the fact the you put I LIKE PIE as one of the choices threw all the legitimacy of the poll out the window.

Jebadia · Post by **Jebadia** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:48 pm

didn't it^

Summanaro · Post by **Summanaro** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:04 pm

Phade wrote:Hey,

I just had high hopes, I guess, giving the benefit of the doubt to the intellegence of forum members.

Phade.

It's partially your fault for 1:

Having such an unorganized forum.

2:
The option of I like pie was put up there, and of course, barely anyone here could resist such an option.

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:12 pm

1. I apologize for anything I might have said to anger you, Phade.
2. But....

This:

Phade wrote:Hey,

As the subject says, SpPanda wants back in. He has caused trouble many times in the past. Has he learned his lesson or is the forum better off without him? I leave this decision up to you.

Phade.

Combined with this...

Phade wrote:Hey,

Hmmmm... 95,000+ members. Only 129 even bothered to vote. Of the ones that voted, less than 50% said "bring him back". Hmmmm...

Phade.

Seems like a yanking the forum populace's chain than of "your votes matter".

If you intended to let him back in the first place, why not just say "Hey boys and girls, I'm thinking of unbanning Panda, but what do YOU think?", be honest that the votes matter, that you're interested in further democracy on the forum, and stress that this is a litmus test for the future, IF IT REALLY IS. As Maximo stated, make it legitimate. Adding the pie option was a bad call.

Remember: No one will be mad at you for the truth, so long as it really IS the truth. You can't please everyone, so go for a side. Trying to stay neutral, when you're as high up as you are, is, well, impossible.

Finally, don't treat use like lab rats and we won't act like them.

So, while I'm glad you're letting Panda back, I'll also state bluntly that I'm somewhat disappointed in this experiment of yours. It could have been conducted a LOT better, by all sides.

Tab. · Post by **Tab.** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:26 pm

Here's some food for thought. Eliminate the "I like pie" option, and you can assume one of two things.
A. those 33 votes would be nullified
B. they would've been distributed among the other options unpredictably, though most likely towards option A or C.

In case A, the percentages would instead have been
For: 64%
Against: 24%
Neutral: 12%

There's your majority for you. Neutral and against combined aren't even half of for.
Situation B wouldn't have been much different. Again, there merely would've been more votes for neutral and for. That can be assumed since those with opinions against sppanda are more likely to vote against and make their point known than those for, as the majority was for anyway.
The rest can be allotted to neutral. In this situation, neutral would never have equalled for (even if all votes were given to neutral), but neutral + against may have come close or slightly surpassed it. Reguardless, netural should be disreguarded in a decision like this. In fact, it shouldn't have been included. Of course, since this was more of a maturity test than a diplomatic poll, it was included, twice. However, eliminate the immature answers from the polls, and you get the real result, making the whole point kind of moot. Anyway fuck you guys I'm supposed to be writing a paper.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:28 pm

I like the way Fade generalized the intelligence and behavior of all the forum members.

I would also like to add that I am <SARCASM>SHOCKED</SARCASM> that this thread was utterly pontless and had no impact on Panda returning. He had his mind made up from the begining. This was just another way to draw out the ugly side of forum mebers and slapping them in the face.

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:26 pm

kthulhu wrote:Finally, don't treat use like lab rats and we won't act like them.

Yes, I agree here.

The only "demand" I made myself was that you stop fucking with our heads and give us an anwer

That whole experimenting and waiting it out and stuff, only made things worse.

I never demanded that spanda be brought back or otherwise.

Sorry if I offended you at ANY point for being immature, but you have to remember that no one likes being treated like a lab rat.

And also, this isn't Sociology 101.

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SpPanda wants back in. Should we let him?

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