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Re: Microsoft does it AGAIN! another stupid mistake...

Post by dokidoki » Fri Sep 12, 2003 5:32 pm

danielwang wrote:I use the Windows .NET Gundam Hacker Edition, which has a modifed SETUPREG.HIV, not to mention other files... If anyone wants to make their Windows .NET Gundam install
Okay, how many people have "Windows .NET Gundam"? Show of hands? Anyone? Put your hand down, Daniel, you don't count.

Now, how many people have <a href="http://www.google.ca/search?q=%22Window ... %22">heard of</a> Windows .NET Gundam? Anyone but Daniel?

Finally, who is particularly interested in his hacked Windows with Unix command add-ons? Show of hands?
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Post by El Banana » Fri Sep 12, 2003 5:48 pm

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Re: Microsoft does it AGAIN! another stupid mistake...

Post by danielwang » Fri Sep 12, 2003 5:53 pm

dokidoki wrote:
danielwang wrote:I use the Windows .NET Gundam Hacker Edition, which has a modifed SETUPREG.HIV, not to mention other files... If anyone wants to make their Windows .NET Gundam install
Okay, how many people have "Windows .NET Gundam"? Show of hands? Anyone? Put your hand down, Daniel, you don't count.

Now, how many people have <a href="http://www.google.ca/search?q=%22Window ... %22">heard of</a> Windows .NET Gundam? Anyone but Daniel?

Finally, who is particularly interested in his hacked Windows with Unix command add-ons? Show of hands?
It's a private build we have here around the Auraria Campus... a bunch of users, it's going other places as well.

If you want me to mail you a CD with the Patches toturn your installation into a Unix-imitation system, just PM me. However, be warned: there is also a 100% chance of breaking your system.
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Post by NicholasDWolfwood » Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:07 pm

Nobody wants your pirated version of Windows Longhorn with .NET and Unix add-ons, motherfucker. We can install and use Linux for that.
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Post by El Banana » Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:09 pm

Oh my, such a dirty little mouth!
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Post by alternatefutures » Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:14 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:Nobody wants your pirated version of Windows Longhorn with .NET and Unix add-ons, motherfucker. We can install and use Linux for that.
You got .NET working on Linux? Cool.

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Post by NicholasDWolfwood » Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:47 pm

No, I meant we can install Linux if we wanted Unix addons such as bash or KDE.
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Post by danielwang » Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:58 pm

Actually, .NET Gundam is just a hack, not an actual port we wrote. Some colleagues of mine in Computer Science figure out how the Windows Installer indexes it's files and managed to stick them in preinstall...
You have to cab the file and replace the ending with _, like MYCUSTOMAPP.EX_
Then, you edit the INF files.. the INF installs the files using Windows Installer Service.
For install prompt, call it from a modifies MSI file, this hosts the Windows Installer system.

All the WINNT32.EXE does is stubload the WINNT billboard (WINNTBBU) libraries... delete those and you're got a wizard you can edit with hex editor and Resource Hacker.

We included:

Changed Explorer to this:
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/

SSH Secure Shell thing
Integrates SSH into the Telnet service...

Edited the FS to look more Unix-like, added a .sshauthorizedkeys etc.

Added Bash cover on the prompt... so we can use ~, and customize prompt using PS1=, etc... unix utilities as well.

THE MASTERPIECE!
We added a "delete critical file" function to the Installer so that it would be hard for n00bs to figure it out. In the tradition of Microsoft Windows, we hide the "let me use the install" function in a unexplained buxxword-filled checkbox option in Advanced Settings at the beginning of the install.

We install over 5 gigabytes of bloatware if you get the Bloatware Edition distro, which includes a DVD VOB hidden as a resource in Windows Media Player... and other things.

Windows .NET Gundam broke a world record!
We now require 9 reboots to get the system working!




We also have RealTwo player, which is designed like Windows .NET GUndam - it wasn't. It just installs a RealOne skin onto WMA, changes the file preferences, restored the Real icons and installs the DirectShow filters, ffdshow, and AVISynth just for fun.
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Post by Timelessblurr » Sat Sep 13, 2003 1:16 am

OkI firgure I jump in here now.
Mac are more stable that PC. Beside the coding of the mac OS being a lot cleaner and having few bugs. XP use over 2 time the amount of Ram it should and more processing power than it should. Also the Mac OS it made for macs. The make processing use less steps reducing date loss though the prossesors. At last check the pentimums where doing 12 steps for each time data moves though it. This allows them to make it look like it goes faster with out going any faster.

The another reason Macs are more stable than PCs. Mac Hardware is opitmiz to run much better since they do not complete over system resourses. Windows had to account for the fact that every piece of hardware is competing for the same resourse so it requirrs drivers on top of drivers plus programs to keep the computer running.
Also Macs OS is built on top of a much more stable system the XP. And dont you all going telling me the XP never crashes. I have to reboot my laptop after 24+ hours of running it. Also I have had it crash on me several times in the past week during updates and geral running. Chances are I demanded more of my computer than the average user but Microsoft XP has been a bitch to me the past 2 weeks. It forces my brother to reformate and go back to XP home after he try to upgraude to pro. I dissabled his USB drivers and messes them up big time.
On my laptop this summer it lost it CD-rom driver. I had some important media files corrupted when the comptuer crashed in the middle of a install of a game. I have seen the blue screen of death this week on my laptop. Oh and my laptop is just 1 year old and it still better what most laptops today that you can buy.
For video editing and graphic work a Mac is the best thing you can get. PC suck in this deparment compared to Macs. The macs are faster here and the software for Macs is a lot better. Just ask anyone who used final cut pro and understands how it works compared to what you can get for the PC. Finalcut Pro is better and cheaper than the Best PC program that cost a lot more. (I know this from talking with People on both sides)
I personly would love to have a mac to play with but I am going to be an engineering and some of the software I need is not made for macs. This software is the software that the general public will problule never bother buying. Autocad (3.5 grand a copy) and math cad 11 with are very important to the field I am going into. Mathcad is 1 grand to the gernal public per copy. I got my copy though the school so it only costed me 130 but then again this are very powerful programs and most of you will never use them. That and I already know how to use a PC just microsoft has really pissed me off the past few weeks with the amount of Crap I have had to put up with. My brother comptuer having to be reformated to the fact that I currently have some corrupted windows system files that come up every now and then.
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Post by alternatefutures » Sat Sep 13, 2003 2:25 am

Timelessblurr wrote: For video editing and graphic work a Mac is the best thing you can get. PC suck in this deparment compared to Macs. The macs are faster here and the software for Macs is a lot better. Just ask anyone who used final cut pro and understands how it works compared to what you can get for the PC. Finalcut Pro is better and cheaper than the Best PC program that cost a lot more. (I know this from talking with People on both sides)
Wrong and wrong. Until the G5 the Mac was sorely behind in the power race, with encoding being far faster on the PC (not theoretically, practically). In addition, PC based Avid systems could handel twice as many video layers in realtime versus their Mac counterparts (In fact, when the G4's were the best Macs available, Avid salesman would say "Yeah, you could run our stuff on a Mac, but why would you want to when you can put it on a PC?"). Running After Effects? PCs sometimes ran 50% faster there and consistantly beat the G4. No performance numbers have come out yet for the G5 in video editing, and asside from performance on scientific aps (of which video editing aps are not, and yes there is a major difference between multimedia and scientific) what few benchmarks there are evoke the response of "Eh". Not bad, but not impressive. But the G5 is not going to be up against the Barton nor the Northwood core to which it is currently being compared. Opteron/Athlon64, and Prescott will be its competition. It's performance results could change as programs are starting to be optimized for the G5, but we'll have to wait and see there. For video editing, right now, it looks like Premiere Pro is the leader by a hair (even though 6.5 and earlier couldn't hold a candle to FCP). However, Premiere Pro, Vegas, Final Cut Pro, and Xpress Pro (although still primarily and off-line editor) are all at around parity, it's a "use what you're used to/like" scinerio, but the capabilities and power of the packages are similar. The people you talked to may have been right about FCP a year ago, but a LOT has happened in that time frame, a LOT. And Final Cut Pro is as expensive as Premiere Pro WITH After Effects WITH Audition (formerly Cool Edit Pro), which makes the Adobe system the best bang for your buck. (I know this because I AM on both sides)

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