religon yes or no

[J-0080]

If you beleive in one you are sheep and fuck your faith.

Of course the reverse could be said, after all going along with the other sheep who don't believe is pretty much the same thing. Also even if you don't believe in something you still have faith in that you don't believe it exists....so yeah.

J-0080.

[Mroni]

If you beleive in one you are sheep and fuck your faith.

Of course the reverse could be said, after all going along with the other sheep who don't believe is pretty much the same thing. Also even if you don't believe in something you still have faith in that you don't believe it exists....so yeah.

J-0080.

Major difference while no proof exists that there is a god. There is plenty to say he dosen't. Also I am an agnostic deist if you read that means I am not sure if god exists or not if he does he dosen't interfere with us.


Mr Oni

[madmag9999]

first of let me tell u all how proud i am that this thred has not become a huge war and how happy i am we are all mature enough to keep this at a civilized level. well heres my two cents:

and also i dont need the ten comandments to tell me whats right and whats wrong there are laws and morals to do that

Hehe. This kind of cracks me up.

Many of our laws are based off the basic moral ideas in the Ten Commandments, and the Ten Commandments themselves are mostly a reflection of universal moral ideas.

For that matter, too, blindly obeying the law is just as foolish as blindly obeying a religion.

Not that I'm a Christian or especially religious person, mind you, but I'll call stupidity as I see it, irregardless of secular or religious origin.

yea i know that some of the laws are based on the ten comandments but also comen sence and my morals tell me its wrong to kill and rape and steel maybe that is becouse that was forced into me when i was a child but... ummmmmmm im starting to prove myself wrong so ill just stop there and get back to u on this.

Is there really an afterlife? What if when we die, we just don't exist anymore? The possibility of that is creepy...

Creepy? Is it?

I didn't want to get involved in this, because I spent so much time on threads like these last summer but this is quick. If we don't exist after death, we won't care. Think about that. So what if we don't exist after this? If this is all there is, don't worry about not existing because you won't be here to care about it.

very true if u die and there is no after life all there is is nothingness then u will not know or care what happend. all there will be is nothing its just the human mind can not comprehend the fact of nothing becouse if it could u would not exists.

Homosexuality has been brought up twice as a "bad" thing, so most of you can probably guess my opinion towards christianity.

i was going to bring that up but didnt want it to get violant well anyway i dont see whats wrong with gay ppl. i know a few and they are ok ppl i dont see anything wrong with them. and if u think there is something wrong with them and belive in god then it is his fault for makeing them gay in the first place becouse its not there dicison they are born that way

Unfortunately, most (NOT all) of the people who preach to you about how great being a christian is are people who ignore the bible themselves.

Basically, I've found you have to find your own reasons for questions like "why the fuck am I here?" and "why does here suck?" and "was I put here by something bigger than me?" yourself. Because anyone who claims they know the answers as true facts is full of shit.

And you can say that straight to their face. They haven't been dead and came back, so they don't fucking know.

very ture all the priests and ppl that claim to 'know' god or whatever are bsing becouse know one truely knows what happens after death all we have are some theorys that we can jugde and base our bilifs on i really dont like it when someone says they 'know' someing about god or what happens after death becouse the only way to find out is to die and then u cant tell anyone so how would u know. also about pristes being messangers of god and all that i think it is bs becouse i can become a preist if i want to right now all i have to do is go to a church and sign up for it.
im done for now sorry to all of those ppl who i havent comented on but some posts are to long and i just dont have the time right now but i will go back and read them and put in my two cents

[Lyrs]

i'm making a few comparisons

Christain = I believe in god
Me = I believe in myself

Christain = god will help me get through this
me = i will help myself get through this

Christain = Jesus died for my sins
me = I'll die/be punished for my own sins

[fyrtenheimer]

You have that all wrong. You're basing your beliefs off all these christian fanatics that unfortunately are everywhere and either are ignoring or don't even fucken know that not all christians are like that.

Threads like these are only made to get together and bash religions, not caring for the fact that there happens to be christians here or ne other person in another particular religion. It's disgusting.

[Lyrs]

me?

[WarpedElements]

it's not just the kings james version. Check out revalations it says that those who practice sorcery/witchcraft (depending on which version yous gots) go to hell as well as those that practice beastality (i dunno why they have the two next to each other, don't ask eye, eye doesn't know). And Oni, jerking yourself isn't a sin. That's a jewish thing about Ohm's sin or something. He jerked off because he didn't wanna have sex with his sister-in-law because she was dog ugly. (long story).

Jewish oral tradition, back in the day was taken VERY seriously, if you were to "Stretch out the truth" you were shamed in ever way possible. If you doubt their oral tradition then you gotta doubt every OTHER culture that passed down their traditions via oral traditions (I'm native american and mah family still passes down stories and the like with vary little variations as possible.

And Christianity doesn't preach "hate" against homosexuality. It just sees it as a perverse practice, like pedophilia or cronic masterbation in public. It describes it as "unnatural relationships" and other such big words. Love the sinner, hate the sin. That's why I'm against executing prisoners, even if they're mass murderers. Muslims are the ones that preach you kill infedils (sp) and that's ANYONE who doesn't believe in Allah.

I didn't come to the decision lightly to "follow like a sheep" but i checked out all sorts of stuff. And for a while, the Shinto stuff from old school Japan seemed pretty reliable. But i don't believe in coincidences and eventually found my way back to God. So fuck "blindly following". Why do some follow science blindly? You're taught it in a main stream source like school and you assume it's right? Sure science has proved gravity laws and other such things but you can see that for yourself. What about the old bones that say we evolved from monkeys? Have you seen those? Take Cold Fusion. Those two pranksters who claimed they got it to work, and they claimed it worked in the lab and it was all great and worked in theory but they couldn't reproduce the effects in the lab. You believe in science, yet you've not seen atom splitting or seen man on the moon, so who knows if we were there (THE FLAG WAS FREAKIN' BLOWIN ON THE VIDEO! HOW CAN IT BLOW IN SPACE?!) but that's a whole other conspiricy theory.

[WarpedElements]

Oh yeah, about being "born gay", that's a load of shit. The scientific communitiy that does believe you're born with it is only like 20 percent of all of them. The rest of'em are like "fuck that". God doesn't make people gay, people give into temptation and have wild monkey sex with members of the same sex. If homosexuality were natural, then they'd be able to have kids. But since you can't it's not. It's natural to want to create offspring to continue one's genetic inheritance or something. But since it's just sex for pleasure, it's just a way to spread AIDs and anal ghonnarea (it exists, and it's fucking disturbing to read about).

[fyrtenheimer]

oh god

ty

[WarpedElements]

Also on that topic, if you're going to accept homosexuality as "normal" why not necrophilia? Or Pedophilia. Instead we call those people sick fucks and send them to be jail or psych wards to be "cured". If we can help pedophilia people realize that wanting children sexualy is wrong, then why can't people accept that homosexuality is immoral and perverse? People cringe at necrophiliacs or those people who like plushies (no offense Oni), so if that's sick, why not homosexuality? It's the same song, second verse.