Why are newbies so difficult to deal with..?

[Bushido Philosopher]

(I was a newbie once so i'm not bein a hypocryte...)

We say for them to read the guides, then 5 seconds later they say that they tried to read it and it was confusing.
Then they keep asking questions like there's no tomorrow.

When I first started I was overwhelmed by how much I had to learn. A year and a half later I'm still learning things by almost a weekly basis (mostly minor things but still, yknow?).

I'm sorry to say but it's partly the senior guys' fault, myself included, that newbies are how they are. Some of them are really trying to learn and try hard and of course there are the others who are just friggin lazy and just want a straight answer...

So maybe the guides are not enough. ErMac's guide is good but since he knows everything it's hard for him to put himself in the newbie's shoes.

My suggestion is that we have a few members come together to put together a guide rather than just one person. One person can't cover EVERYTHING a newbie wants to know no matter how hard he thinks.

Yet at the same time we don't want to waste too much energy for newbies just cause they don't know a thing. ErMaC, I see many problems in your guide that can easily be fixed, such as version mistakes and lack of information. So maybe you can either update it like on a more frequent basis or let someone else do that for you.

Just a little something I was thinking late at night when answering a few questions. Yout all may completely disagree, but I want you to think more about what a newbie goes through.

[priuscomet]

::sigh::

everyone who considers themself long-lived on this site asks themself this very question over and over again. you'll never get a real answer.

deal with it.

[kthulhu]

I'm currently experimenting with new newbie handling methods. Current technique: acting like a horrible prick, as this <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... >thread</a> shows.

[ErMaC]

ErMac's guide is good but since he knows everything...

I've actually just started talking with Ian (AbsoluteDesinty) about helping me with the guide. I've come to have a great respect for his video knowledge and I think we both could contribute in future guides and in revisions of previous guides. Some things we've been kicking around:

Explanations of colorspace.
Deinterlacing methods.
More explanation about Inverse Telecine - when to do it, when not to, how to do it.
XviD encoding guide.
Various filters to improve video quality or reduce filesize in post-production.

Also I should go back and do a quick update to my TMPGEnc and Nandub guides. The only real changes though will be in how I tell people to do IVTC (now I tell everyone to just use DeComb instead of manual IVTC in TMPGEnc). I'd probably change the way I tell people to do deinterlacing in Nandub, although I'd still leave most of the TMPGEnc settings the same. I wouldn't use MPEG1 for more than 352x240 resolution even now, and DivX3.11 is quickly being superceded in quality by XviD. DivX5 doesn't allow for enough control and has that nasty adware associated with it, so I try to stay away from it. It's B-frame implementation is also very strange, and I've seen lotsa problems with some DivX5 encodes that use B-frames when it comes to animated shows. (I ripped the whole Clerks:The Animated Series DVDs onto 2 CDs, the DivX5 rips looked great at 640x480 except that in certain scenes with lotsa solid colors these bizarre blocks would appear).
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[Omega Blue]

When dealing with newbies
one should always consider the surroundings one finds themselves
as well as the tone the newbie brings to the board i.e....
is it board policy to pile on any newbies to eliminate the weak from the strong,
is the newbie a geninine newbie
or just a tard switching nicks to befuddle a board,
and last but not least are you prepare to go one on one with such a tard
for as long as it takes to run him from your board.

Me I am a Troll™
and as a Troll™ I visited many sites, signed up and demand that the Troll™
be Racked,
it is a Troll™'s purpose in life,
but in my travels I have recently discovered AMVs
and found them to be The Crack of the internet age,
and I needed to score.




Got Crack???


BTW I am here to learn
so you don't have to rack me....
but it never hurts to RACK THE TROLL™S

[Digital_Dojo]

Yes ErMaC...

Please make an XviD encoding guide...
I would be forever in your debt

DD

[Eek-1]

Simple. We make a collective forum guide. Write in topics like:
- apropriate language
- how to ask question the smart way
- how to answer question the smart way
- list of all links to the audio/video guides
- faqs

the next time someone posted something that is against the rule, just point them to that one forum guide.

[AMVUserII]

(I was a newbie once so i'm not bein a hypocryte...)

We say for them to read the guides, then 5 seconds later they say that they tried to read it and it was confusing.
Then they keep asking questions like there's no tomorrow.

When I first started I was overwhelmed by how much I had to learn. A year and a half later I'm still learning things by almost a weekly basis (mostly minor things but still, yknow?).

I'm sorry to say but it's partly the senior guys' fault, myself included, that newbies are how they are. Some of them are really trying to learn and try hard and of course there are the others who are just friggin lazy and just want a straight answer...

So maybe the guides are not enough. ErMac's guide is good but since he knows everything it's hard for him to put himself in the newbie's shoes.

My suggestion is that we have a few members come together to put together a guide rather than just one person. One person can't cover EVERYTHING a newbie wants to know no matter how hard he thinks.

Yet at the same time we don't want to waste too much energy for newbies just cause they don't know a thing. ErMaC, I see many problems in your guide that can easily be fixed, such as version mistakes and lack of information. So maybe you can either update it like on a more frequent basis or let someone else do that for you.

Just a little something I was thinking late at night when answering a few questions. Yout all may completely disagree, but I want you to think more about what a newbie goes through.

(sighs) these kind of posts are the worst......

Ok.....I'll give a flat-line answer to this topic

"Why are newbies so difficult to deal with..?"

Do yourself a favor search the forums for all posts regarding newbies.......if you do that you'll notice that the majority of the posts are the more expierienced members on this site just taking an oppurtunity to flame somebody b/c there new.

SO.........the question you should be asking is not why newbies are so hard to deal with its Why ppl on this site are so difficult to deal with!

So do us all a favor just stop with these posts. It degrades what this community is about. Even Phade has expressed his fellings on this.

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[shinto]

mebe you should get phade to put a link to a newbie guide straight from the main page so they read it as soon as they get here before they come to the forum with questions.

[Melfina]

The true newbie can not navigate to a guide, the true newbie needs me to wip out paint.exe to tell him where the fields are in a program that he has running


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