Brand new con, guess who's a first year guest of honor!

SQ · Post by SQ » Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:08 pm

I don't have any way to record to VHS either, AD. You're not alone.

Dannywilson · Post by **Dannywilson** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:39 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:Well I wont be entering - I dont have any way of producing an NTSC vhs.

A dvd, sure, vhs - why would I have an NTSC recordable vcr in England?

I'm smack dab in the middle of america and I don't have a VCR.

Mr Pilkington · Post by **Mr Pilkington** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:47 pm

Dannywilson wrote:
AbsoluteDestiny wrote:Well I wont be entering - I dont have any way of producing an NTSC vhs.

A dvd, sure, vhs - why would I have an NTSC recordable vcr in England?
I'm smack dab in the middle of america and I don't have a VCR.

**points and laughs**

MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm obsolete technology!

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:51 pm

animeamiee wrote:
Vlad G Pohnert wrote:A contest with VHS only??? any considerations given to digital considerations

Vlad

Well, because this IS our first con, we've been doing a lot of "borrowing" from other cons ^_^

these rules are very similar to both Anime Iowa's rules for their AMV contest, maybe it's a midwest thing *shrug*

we decided to go with this for a few reasons

1. not ALL amv creators have GOOD ways to transfer their video, keeping the quality etc. I know it took me a while to master the art of encoding ^_^

2. This way we get them all in the same format which will make presenting them a whole lot smoother.

3. Since I'm involved I didn't want an Acen disaster, with them taking the digital entries themselvs and putting them on VHS, thereby cutting some videos short, and cropping others and other icky things like that.

if there are any suggestions for a more digital friendly way of doing this, I'm all ears!

I can understand keeping it simple, but actually there are probably more creators now that can't properly ouput to a VCR then those who can. I myself can, but as a bare minimum will only enter on SVHS and up. I much prefer to enter on DVD or MPEG2 these days... I just wanted to point this out since it is hard to get enough entries for beginning contests as it is....

Vlad

VegettoEX · Post by **VegettoEX** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:07 pm

Honestly, though...

If the people running the contest ONLY know how to deal with VHS, let them do it. I'd rather see a mediocre contest with videos that look EXACTLY as the creators intended them to look, than later hear about how the coordinators didn't have a clue what they were doing with all the digital entries and totally FuX0rZeD them all up.

That's why I offered to do AnimeNext's contest this year. I saw that it was done with VHS-only last year, and decided that since I knew what I was doing, I'd extend my knowledge to them in order to help out. This was their second year, right after a VHS-only year.

Things will change... let the con get on its feet ^^;;

jbone · Post by **jbone** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:56 pm

The thing is, the con had the chance to have the contest done more effectively - I'd been actively speaking with the first person in charge of AMV-related matters, before he left for Japan... and whoever took over after him never once contacted me.

I'd even been talking with Vlad about how to handle the technical aspcts, so that everything could have run smoothly...

The con simply didn't bother to accept the help which was offered.

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:20 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Honestly, though...

If the people running the contest ONLY know how to deal with VHS, let them do it. I'd rather see a mediocre contest with videos that look EXACTLY as the creators intended them to look, than later hear about how the coordinators didn't have a clue what they were doing with all the digital entries and totally FuX0rZeD them all up.

That's why I offered to do AnimeNext's contest this year. I saw that it was done with VHS-only last year, and decided that since I knew what I was doing, I'd extend my knowledge to them in order to help out. This was their second year, right after a VHS-only year.

Things will change... let the con get on its feet ^^;;

Hey, I understand what your saying, and if that is the only option then yes I agree it's better relying on technical aspects that everyone is familiar with. But on the other hand, it does not mean however that it's the only way to go and my question basically here "is there any considerations given to other formats or get help on that?" the reason being that not too many people have access anymore to VHS.... If you can't get entries as a result, that will effect how the contest goes as well. I'm all for seeing well run AMV contests!

Vlad

animeamiee · Post by **animeamiee** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:39 pm

As I said, anyone with any ideas for us to expand our AMV contest I'm more than willling to take them into consideration ^_^

We've got a lot of work to do, and only so many people to do it, and our numbers seem to be getting smaller and smaller.

I'd love to be able to take digital entries! and if anyone has an idea for how to do it, in a relativly orginized manner, please pass them along to me!

Again one of my concerns is keeping the videos as they were sent to us, I still have horrible visions from ACen with one of my vids getting cropped in such a way the effects I had done were completely lost for different parts.

Again, this is not set in stone, as we have not recieved any entries nor have we recieved any specific e-mails asking about the AMV contest.

SQ · Post by SQ » Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:54 pm

jbone wrote:The thing is, the con had the chance to have the contest done more effectively - I'd been actively speaking with the first person in charge of AMV-related matters, before he left for Japan... and whoever took over after him never once contacted me.

I'd even been talking with Vlad about how to handle the technical aspcts, so that everything could have run smoothly...

The con simply didn't bother to accept the help which was offered.

In short, you need to contact jbone, animeamiee.
You can't expect for everyone to be rushing to you. =\

animeamiee · Post by **animeamiee** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:20 pm

well, you see, I WAS going to, and for whatever reason, I was just given his contact info LAST NIGHT!

But because of the stink he's causing here AND at the Anime Detour Forums, I've decided not to. I have no desires to deal with someone who thinks his ideas are better, just because they're his and decides to start all this drama over something that is really a simple matter to straighten out.

Phade and I will be heading the AMV contest, we will work together as much as we can to make it as succesful as possible, and in such a way to get as many people involved as we can ^_^

as soon as we think of a good way to do it, we will post it on the website and let everyone know!