Can someone help me? [crashing WMM when exporting]

RMS Oceanic · Post by **RMS Oceanic** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:42 pm

Hi. I don't know if I'm in the right place for this. I am on a tight budget, so the only program I have available to make Music Videos is Windows Movie Maker. I know it's restricted in some of its capabilities, but it gets the job done. When I began making my fifth video, my computer was using Windows ME. Then I upgraded to Windows XP. When I finished my video, I attempted to export it, but everytime, during some point in the process of exporting to .mpeg or .avi, Movie Maker crashes.

Can someone explain to me what's going on? Will I have to start the video again?

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:50 pm

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... m.php?f=13

Go there.

I can't really help you, I don't know about WMM. I don't know if you can do this in WMM, but can you export using uncompressed HuffYUV? If you can, then you can do the final compression with Vdub.

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:08 pm

windows movie maker 2.0 will always mess up your file when you export AVI (unless you have a video of a black screen with no audio.)

i've never heard of exporting mpeg from wmm. i never knew this was possible.

if it crashes while you are exporting wmm and it crashes, try closing all other programs as wmm needs a lot of juice to build the wmm. if it still doesn't work, you may need to rebuild your timeline. annoying, but i haven't found anyway around it.

i have a basic guide to wmm2.0 in my sig. it might help.

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:13 pm

downwithpants wrote:windows movie maker 2.0 will always mess up your file when you export AVI (unless you have a video of a black screen with no audio.)

i've never heard of exporting mpeg from wmm. i never knew this was possible.

if it crashes while you are exporting wmv and it crashes, try closing all other programs as wmm needs a lot of juice to build the wmv. if it still doesn't work, you may need to rebuild your timeline. annoying, but i haven't found anyway around it.

i have a basic guide to wmm2.0 in my sig. it might help.

rargh, grog need edit button.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:56 pm

downwithpants wrote:windows movie maker 2.0 will always mess up your file when you export AVI (unless you have a video of a black screen with no audio.)

Again, this simply is not true. Cyanna's first video, linked to in my signature, was made in WMM 2.0, with all sorts of double-speed and half-speed clips at various points. It was exported to DV AVI and then converted to MPEG-1 using TMPGEnc. And it plays perfectly fine.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:30 pm

Yep, Scintilla's is the only case I've ever heard of, but it seems it worked at least once before.

And no, wmm can't produce to mpg unless the ME version is more advanced than the XP versions (neither 1 or 2 offer mpg). Either way, if you can't produce the timeline, try cutting it into parts and producing them separately. If by some miracle (no offense to the one person it's worked for) you get the avi format to work, you can append the separate files in VirtualDub (though you'll have to convert them since Vdub doesn't accept this format of avi). Just copy and paste half the clips to a new timeline and try producing that - breaking it up. If you can clear your harddrive to get more space, you might also try that (last I tried it takes over 20 gigs free to produce a complicated timeline in 2.0 - and I do mean complicated as in multiple small clips & effects throughout the entire timeline).

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:43 pm

hmm lucky scintilla+cyanna

i can't even get a video that contains still images only to come out correctly. the timing gets thrown off by a few seconds, there are a few cuts where you can see both the frame before and the frame after, and the audio sounds more like midi than mp3.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:51 pm

downwithpants wrote:hmm lucky scintilla+cyanna

i can't even get a video that contains still images only to come out correctly. the timing gets thrown off by a few seconds, there are a few cuts where you can see both the frame before and the frame after, and the audio sounds more like midi than mp3.

That's the same error everyone I've talked to (except Scintilla) seems to get when they try that format. I know I've done all sorts of tests to try and get it to come out right, but failed every time.

I'd really like to look at Cyanne's computer - if she has an older codec or something that allows wmm's DV AVI to come out right, it would be a great help to everyone who uses the program. I really feel like we're all missing something now that I know it worked for someone. ~_~

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:23 pm

Arigatomyna wrote: That's the same error everyone I've talked to (except Scintilla) seems to get when they try that format. I know I've done all sorts of tests to try and get it to come out right, but failed every time.

I see. well it's relieving to know that it's not just my computer that's messing up.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:19 am

Arigatomyna wrote:I'd really like to look at Cyanna's computer - if she has an older codec or something that allows wmm's DV AVI to come out right, it would be a great help to everyone who uses the program. I really feel like we're all missing something now that I know it worked for someone. ~_~

Trying to remember what I know about it: it's a laptop, not more than a year old, running Windows XP (don't know whether Home or Pro), WMM 2.0, and I think she used Uncompressed RGB source clips. For more details, you'd have to ask her.