Anime VS. Cartoons

Charizard305 · Post by **Charizard305** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:31 am

Would you put Family Guy in the same category as Totally Spies? What about Batman? Probably not. Cartoon is a drawing. Anime is a drawing. Just because they focus on another way of grabbing the audience, and are probably made for a more specific audience in mind (and a lot of that does happen even in the states, examples above) doesn't mean they're oh so different. Rawr.

I've never seen totally spies, and no i woudlnt put Family guy and Batman in the same category, Batman is a cartoon, Family guy is an Animated TV Series.

Another distinct difference between cartoons, especially in the west is how its drawn. theres no denying that. Granted they go about differnt ways of grabing the audience's attention

Your logic fucken sucks ass. No plot, no storyline, and it doesn't attract like Anime does? Are you out of your fucken mind.

As for this, Name a few cartoons that have as defined plots as .. lets say .. RahXephon. Batman, no. Bugs bunny, no.

Granted there are some anime's that have just basic plots and are more geared towards kids, such as Pokemon. Where all ash does is goes around making friends. I cant vouch for the Japanese version cause ive never seen it.

Nemoxs · Post by **Nemoxs** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:55 am

fyrtenheimer wrote:
I dunno, in my mind Anime and cartoons are totally different, cartoons were made for kids, have virtually no story line, and generally dont attact as big as a population as Anime. Where as anime is pretty much the opposite.
Your logic fucken sucks ass. No plot, no storyline, and it doesn't attract like Anime does? Are you out of your fucken mind.

Would you put Family Guy in the same category as Totally Spies? What about Batman? Probably not. Cartoon is a drawing. Anime is a drawing. Just because they focus on another way of grabbing the audience, and are probably made for a more specific audience in mind (and a lot of that does happen even in the states, examples above) doesn't mean they're oh so different. Rawr.

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Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:13 pm

Don't like it, don't watch it.

Like it, watch it. What's the argument?

It's all a semantics/semiotics issue. I don't like anime being called cartoons, because that, with most people here, provokes associations with non-serious, child-oriented animation. Additionally, if I ever called it that, I would be putting something I personally enjoy on the same level as something I dislike/despise.

However, don't pull out that 'you take anime too seriously' argument against me. Really. I'm a knowledgeable but rather casual anime watcher, at best. But I'm not a cartoon watcher, really.

Although, I do have to make an exception for some more adult series (i.e. South Park, Family Guy) which I watched and enjoyed back when I had TV and also certain European/oldie products which I similarly enjoy. These could be described as cartoons, but they're not exactly the first thing that comes to a typical American's mind when you say 'cartoon'. Neither is anime something that comes to mind when I say 'cartoon'.

So, for the sake of being clear, call it anime unless you want an 'uninitiated' person to get the wrong impression.

But, otherwise - yea, who does care.

methinksIMweird · Post by **methinksIMweird** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:16 pm

Don't like it, don't watch it.

Like it, watch it. What's the argument?

i agree. whether an anime is a cartoon or a cartoon is a cartoon. dont matter as long as you like watching it.

El Banana · Post by **El Banana** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:44 pm

A cartoon is a drawing style where the artist simplifies the subject's features.
Anime is a form of animation, that uses cartooning as a personal style.

The fact that "American cartoons" tend to suck does not mean the medium itself sucks.

I watch anime because I am an animation buff. So wether it's paper cut-outs, crude stick figures, or large-breasted, sparkly-eyed females in tight jumpsuits fighting robots and dinosaurs in space, If the animation is decent and the story is interesting, I'll probably watch it.

Savia · Post by **Savia** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:46 pm

El Banana wrote:A cartoon is a drawing style where the artist simplifies the subject's features.
Anime is a form of animation, that uses cartooning as a personal style.

The fact that "American cartoons" tend to suck does not mean the medium itself sucks.

I watch anime because I am an animation buff. So wether it's paper cut-outs, crude stick figures, or large-breasted, sparkly-eyed females in tight jumpsuits fighting robots and dinosaurs in space, If the animation is decent and the story is interesting, I'll probably watch it.

Spot the oxymoron

Charizard305 · Post by **Charizard305** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:11 pm

However, don't pull out that 'you take anime too seriously' argument against me. Really. I'm a knowledgeable but rather casual anime watcher, at best. But I'm not a cartoon watcher, really.

First off, if ur passionate about something then u cant take it too seriously. U shouldn't jump to conclustions, let the other person say it then bust their nuts for it.

Don't like it, don't watch it.

I'm not saying that if u dont like it then u have to watch it. That wasnt the discussion, im just saying that there are certain categories of animation, one is cartoons, one is Anime and there are others out there, but for sake of keeping this short ill just list those two. Cartoons and Anime are just being more specific than saying animation. I wouldnt call South Park a cartoon because generally cartoons are geared toward the younger generation.

motemote · Post by **motemote** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:46 pm

animation is animation, get off your high horses and die please. quickly.

Toecutter · Post by **Toecutter** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:24 pm

The real argument you're trying to make is that anime is a little more adult than "Alvin and the Chipmunks", or "The Smurfs". To do this, you ought to point out the few American animated films aimed at adults ("Heavy Metal" is really the only one I've heard of, but there have to be a few others out there).

I remember a few years back, the Sci-Fi channel and USA constantly ran these phone order commercials for "Akira", and these other animes. They basically advertised them with such slogans as "it makes Blade Runner look like Disneyworld". While these commercials really cut down on the philosophical side of anime, it got the point across it was not meant for kids.

Just give them a VHS copy of Akira (you don't want to risk losing a good quality DVD version to a bunch of uneducated swines), and see what they think. Hopefully, they'll be smart enough to figure out the basics. I remember lending a VHS copy of "Mad Max" to some ditzy Christian girl. It took her the whole damn movie to guess the film was made in a different country (because everyone was driving on the wrong side of the road, but she didn't notice all the cars were right-side drive).

J-0080 · Post by **J-0080** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:38 pm

Well if all you want to do is show them that there is a differnence between the two you could always read here. It gives some good tips.

And Savia, who says that wouldn't be interesting