Matrix Revolutions

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:04 pm

I guess I'm in the minority, but I was pretty disappointed by it. No not by the action, but by the lack of a good ending and the laughable character development.

If your theater was like mine, everyone was laughing and heckling during *any* of the serious moments in the film between Neo and *anyone*. His acting was horrendous and I don't know anyone who actually gave two shits about what happened to any of the characters. Hell I had more empathy for the kid and the captain. And no I haven't spoiled anything yet.

As for the ending, I think they had the potential for *so* much more and pussed out. The 2nd movie implied so many great questions and things that could be done. Sure it's "philosophical" and "Deep," but I"m not the one who implied that's where the movie was going. Therefore, like any human being, I had expectations that they would go down this route and alas, they did not. It was all in the 2nd movie for no reason whatsoever other then to use 10 cent SAT words.

At the same time, don't get me wrong, I did enjoy it (yes you can enjoy something while still disappointed). The dock fight alone was worth the price of admission. I was just disappointed with the ending and direction the third film went.

HungryCrackPot · Post by **HungryCrackPot** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:26 am

you're not the only one. you're just the only one who thinx it isnt obvious to have to explain it.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:33 am

HungryCrackPot wrote:you're not the only one. you're just the only one who thinx it isnt obvious to have to explain it.

Not exactly, the things stated are fairly simple things within philosophy, but I was impressed a "mere" action film would even touch upon it and then was later disappointed they didn't further explore it...

HungryCrackPot · Post by **HungryCrackPot** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:44 am

what did you expect?
Most people think that Full Metal Jacket was MERELY an action film.

Jebadia · Post by **Jebadia** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:45 am

From another forum wrote:lol it made me think of Superman 2

Smith: "Where is the the son of Jor-El!?"
Oracle: "Son of who?" *looks at the architect*
Architect: "Seriously I didn't she was a porn bot!"
Oracle: "You really are a basterd"
Smith/Architect: "I know mother."

Smith: "Mr. Anderson welcome back....we..missed you.."
Neo:"...."
Smith: "Yeah..unfortunately it's not gonna be fought mano e mano (sp?), and due to script rewrite there were be two more..alternate personalites of me which you will have to deal with.
Neo: "It ends tonight.."
Smith: "Not so fast Mr. Anderson, you just might want to leave this place forever after I tell you what was changed. Apparently my alter ego's will consister of a, one, very gay version of me, supposedly a female version, but unfortunately the casting crew couldn't find anyone to play the part."
Neo: "Whoa.."
Smith: "Indeed....the other is a brutish character who can hardly speak...and simply lets out simple grunts and groans...perhaps because he never tries to open his mouth when he is trying to speak...you should know this feeling Mr. Anderson.
Neo: "You still never gave me my damn phonecall..."
Smith2: "I'll give it to you..."
Smith3: "Hmmmmmm......"
Smith: "Oh by the way...Smith 3 unfortunately is being played by The Rock..."
Neo: "Congradulations..."
Smith3: "Hmmm..."
Smith: "Yes....so as you can see, you really don't need to fight me to liberate the people in this world, because with our luck a giant prism will swoop on by and take us away...."
Neo: "Really..."
Smith3: "Hmmmm..."
Smith2: "Yeah and it's raining, can we go inside, this business suit is getting ruined!"
Smith: "Shut up. Unfortunately Mr. Anderson I never realised how annoying being me would of been and wouldn't have gone as far as I did. So by request we hired the SNL writing crew to replace me and all of myself...with Mango..."
Neo: "Mango?"
Smith: "Even you won't be able to defeat Mango....it is inevitable.."
Smith3: "Hmmmmm...."
Smith: "It's a big word I know....."
Smith2: "Perhaps too big."
Smith: "...."
Smith3: "...."
Neo: "...."
Smith2: "What?"
Smith: "Never mind...."
Mango: "Aye its all rainy out here"
Smith: "Here already...they could of waited.."
Smith2: "Your speedo is all wet."
Smith3: ".......hmmm?"
Smith: "Why did they ever write you two in."
Andy Wachowski: "Howdy guys"
Smith: "What are you doing here.."
Neo: "Who is he?"
Smith: "Our true creator."
Andy Wachowski: "Or am I?"
Smith: "?"
Neo: "?"
Smith2: "....?"
Smith3: "*burp*"
Mango: "*shake, shake, shake*"
[Andy Wachowski pulls of mask and shows his true identity]
Smith3: "oh...god.."
Smith2: "your not supposed to talk.."
Smith: "Smith will suffice."
Neo: "Should I know you?"
Mango: "You can't have the Mango!!"
Andy Wachowski: "Behold..I am really George Lucas!!"

to be continued...

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:46 am

inanitydishamen wrote:I liked the part where Neo and Trinity BOTH DIED.

exactly the reason i avoid all movie topics until i see the movie.

KawaiiYume4o8 · Post by **KawaiiYume4o8** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:37 pm

Watched it yesterday on the IMAX. Great Action scenes, though there didn't seem to be much of a plot that required any kind of deep thinking whatsoever. I actually liked how it focused in on Zion more than the actual Matrix, it gave it more suspense.

)v(ajin Koji · Post by **)v(ajin Koji** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:51 pm

Jebadia wrote:
From another forum wrote:Andy Wachowski: "Behold..I am really George Lucas!!"

to be continued...

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:18 pm

my reaction to the movie was similar to dwchang's. the first and second were enjoyable because they really pushed philosophical questions up to the audience. so i was expecting the same for the third. but the third really didn't do much other than end it and explain everything (although that's always nice).

spoiler wrote:the quality of the dialogue really seemed to drop in this one though. that was another thing i didn't like. agent smith's acting was what really killed it. he was really good in the first two, but in the third i just lost pretty much all my respect for him. link did an uninspiring job again.

the dock battle scene was attractive, but it was basically the formula that gave the twins towers its success: evil enemies send hordes of cg animated minions, good guys try to hold off a barrier against heavy odds using ranged weapons. result: good guys get to snipe off lots of bad guys before they get killed.

as for the ending, although it didn't bring up new philosophical questions, it did put the whole movie in a new perspective by explaining the roles of the oracle, the architect, neo and smith. religious allegories could easily be drawn.

altogether, it was alright, but my least favorite of the three.

Jebadia may have something there...

Jebadia · Post by **Jebadia** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:27 pm

but it was basically the formula that gave the twins towers its success

you mean The Two Towers?