WTF is the difference between Nu-Metal and other metal?

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:46 am

Genres suck, and are corrupt.

Set_Abominae · Post by **Set_Abominae** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:35 am

Rozard wrote:Genres suck, and are corrupt.

And yet, without them, people would still think that all metal is death metal.

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:25 am

Otohiko's basically right when he says that prog metal isn't really a genre. However, that doesn't stop certain bands (such as Dream Theater, Fates Warning, Hourglass, Andromeda, Pain of Salvation, even Symphony X, and several others) from being classified as such. In cases such as those, the similiarity seems to lie mostly in guitar/keyboards and often subject matter. Of those bands listed above, SyX is the one that stands out in subject matter (focusing more on fantasy than the other bands) but many still classify them as prog metal because of the style of the guitar/keyboard solos and changing time signatures. Some other things you'll often find in much prog metal are classical-influenced riffs and tonal patterns, purely technical drums, and slightly higher pitched vocals (falsetto or vibrato).

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:41 am

Didn't we have this discussion before?

There's a lot of ways the genre/style/category system can be twisted and bent, since rock bands don't tend to go very well into standard taxonomic pigeonholes. And the more progressive you go, the less standardised it gets. Quite simple.

As for prog rock and prog metal, there's similarities and trends between bands not because of the sheer progressiveness, but because historically, prog bands focused on certain themes, instruments and techniques. So, these stylistic signatures sort of stuck. Still, if something complex and unclassifyable comes along, it's probably prog.

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I'm just gonna step away now and hope the whole discussion doesn't repeat itself.

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:45 am

How does any of that contradict any of what I said?

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:06 pm

Did it have to?

I wouldn't argue with you about metal anyways

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:14 pm

Damn right.

Set_Abominae · Post by **Set_Abominae** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:30 pm

Set_Abominae wrote:Of course there's prog metal... Rush.

Well, I guess that's sort of one of the only ones.

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:15 pm

Rush is prog rock.

Set_Abominae · Post by **Set_Abominae** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:10 pm

flint_the_dwarf wrote:Rush is prog rock.

They are definitely metal... in a Led Zepplin sense.