Is anime racist !!!

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Post by kthulhu » Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:39 pm

UncleMilo wrote:Also: Imagine you're from Japan and you listen to popular music from America and you hear the "n" word over and over in some hip-hop or rap song... you don't know what the "n" word is... and so the person from Japan starts using the word to mimic the musicians he likes to listen to. He has no idea about the history of that word or why it would offend someone...
In the case of "Tokyo Breakfast", I think the director knew full well what they were doing with the n-word. When it's the Japanese family doing it to one another, they show the reaction.

At the end, though, when the black delivery man shows up, they don't show the reaction he has. Why? Because the director (and the audience, most likely) knows that the reaction will be the black man getting offended. It's supposed to be making fun of the Japanese ignorance of racial politics, but at the same time, it provides an excuse for cheap racist humor.

That said, the sheer racist surrealism of "Tokyo Breakfast" is what makes it interesting.
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Post by DJ_Izumi » Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:46 pm

I don't think Tokyo Breakfast is about racisism, more about ignorance. Basicly 'TV said this is a good word... Nigga! Now lets get some hoe's and some 40's and bust a cap in yo ass. :D''

I think in Tokyo Breakfast, they're really just saying 'You look like FUCKING IDIOTS.'. ^^
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Post by Voices_Of_Ryan » Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:49 pm

kthulhu wrote:
UncleMilo wrote:Also: Imagine you're from Japan and you listen to popular music from America and you hear the "n" word over and over in some hip-hop or rap song... you don't know what the "n" word is... and so the person from Japan starts using the word to mimic the musicians he likes to listen to. He has no idea about the history of that word or why it would offend someone...
In the case of "Tokyo Breakfast", I think the director knew full well what they were doing with the n-word. When it's the Japanese family doing it to one another, they show the reaction.

At the end, though, when the black delivery man shows up, they don't show the reaction he has. Why? Because the director (and the audience, most likely) knows that the reaction will be the black man getting offended. It's supposed to be making fun of the Japanese ignorance of racial politics, but at the same time, it provides an excuse for cheap racist humor.

That said, the sheer racist surrealism of "Tokyo Breakfast" is what makes it interesting.

It also works this way in many american shows themselfs for example,

In boston Public a show many of you know as a show about a school (in boston no less :D),
There was an episode where the coach of the basketball team got fired for using the N word even though the players said it was cool.

Networks/companies like to play off of the publics attention to racial sterotypes, and therefore make people hate more than the already did.

Because in the long run, all we're doing is introducing racism to a new generation that otherwise, would not get it from anywhere else (basicly).

Congrads.

While I understand they're just shows, and I also (from what my step father told me who had lived there for considerable amounts of time) understand that the japanese have a particular sort of eltisim in their own country (for example, if you have a business, a japanese man has to own 51% of the company or more).

It has alot to do with protecting their econemy, which there-fore makes alot of sense.

I don't even think it's about racism anymore, maybe just more about business?
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Post by J-0080 » Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:00 pm

(for example, if you have a business, a japanese man has to own 51% of the company or more).
Um, to complelty own a corporation here you need 51% or more of the shares, thats just being the majority shareholder.
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Post by Mroni » Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:05 pm

Dear god ! ack who cares if anime is racist. People with no life lets see I am watching stuff made in japan hmm Now I will impose my own views on it wtf. The downfall of america is political correctness. God If you believe the drivel about racism and sexism then Animerica is your mag printed by feminists and homos who would love to assert thier freaky leftist agenda on traditional japanese society. I don't have a problem with sexism in anime wtf. What girl cares about sexism hmm oh yeah thats right ugly ones! I love japan they know how to dress their schoolgirls if they want to be racist and have hot schoolgirls more power to them. I cant think of one feminist I have ever seen that I would want to wack to. And if they hate us white folks or black folks more power to them. Hate is part of being human to.

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Post by J-0080 » Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:06 pm

:lol:
paizuri wrote:There's also no need for introductions because we're generally a friendly bunch and will welcome you with wide open arms anyway.

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Post by pyro_256 » Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:15 pm

dwchang wrote:I just wanted to add to what Milo said. You guys seriously have the wrong idea about asia and Japan if you think they're all happy and open to new people. Quite the opposite. As Milo has said, Japan the country/people/culture is pretty xenophobic. If you're non-asian, go to Japan and see if they treat you differently. If they look at you strangely and stare. If they whisper to each other and you *know* they're talking about you even though you don't know what you're saying.
you can get that in parts of canada. i unfortunately live in a mostly asian part of toronto and everyone looks at me as if i shouldn't be there.

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Post by Voices_Of_Ryan » Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:28 pm

J-0080 wrote:
(for example, if you have a business, a japanese man has to own 51% of the company or more).
Um, to complelty own a corporation here you need 51% or more of the shares, thats just being the majority shareholder.
:roll: no man, that's not what I ment.

In america anyone can own majority of a business, black, white, spanish, blue, asian, anyone.

In japan, only the japanese can own majority.
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Post by Suzuki_Akira » Wed Dec 24, 2003 12:20 am

I'm kind of surprised that this question hasn't been asked already- isn't the question itself racist? It's taking the actions of many independent people, from different areas, backgrounds, and artistic judgment and lumping every cartoon that comes from that country into the word "anime", then having the gall to ask whether this stain glass is racist or not when it has just classified individuals as a "race" to judge. That's like asking if American newspapers are pro-government. That may be true for some, but for others it's a resounding HELL NO! Because they are run by different people with different thought! ALl these mothers of America, these people in New York who ban Chinese martial arts, the activists for anti-anime are racists themselves. This is a racist question. And here ends my rant... :oops: sorry...
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Post by Voices_Of_Ryan » Wed Dec 24, 2003 12:26 am

Suzuki_Akira wrote:I'm kind of surprised that this question hasn't been asked already- isn't the question itself racist? It's taking the actions of many independent people, from different areas, backgrounds, and artistic judgment and lumping every cartoon that comes from that country into the word "anime", then having the gall to ask whether this stain glass is racist or not when it has just classified individuals as a "race" to judge. That's like asking if American newspapers are pro-government. That may be true for some, but for others it's a resounding HELL NO! Because they are run by different people with different thought! ALl these mothers of America, these people in New York who ban Chinese martial arts, the activists for anti-anime are racists themselves. This is a racist question. And here ends my rant... :oops: sorry...
I actually said everyone/thing was racist.
Close enough =D .
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