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Post by Tidus_F_F_X » Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:16 am

Arigatomyna wrote:
Tidus_F_F_X wrote:Second of all, umm WTF, u ignorant retard u admit to not watching much anime and yet at the same time u say, "how is this giving anime a bad name? Because some of us don't focus on the violent aspects of anime like so many others" ummm HEY jerk-off, ive seen tonsa NON GAY, NON PORN, NON violent anime, love hina, love hina again, ah my goddess, chobits,
Love Hina and Chobits are the only anime you can think of to show that you've seen a lot of non-porn/non-violent anime? Love Hina is the epitome of ecchi anime, maybe not hentai, but certainly filled with more sexual innuendos than half the shonen ai anime around. As for non-violent, there are a lot of non-violent yaoi anime, and many of the anime discussed in this thread - used by yaoi fans for fanwork - are non-violent to begin with. With all the slap-stick comedy and abuse going on in Love Hina, it's a lot more violent than some shonen ai titles I could name for you. Take Card Captor Sakura for instance - hardly a violent anime considering it's namely shoujo featuring little cute kids. But that doesn't stop the shonen ai or the yaoi fans who enjoy watching it.

My point - violence or anime type has nothing to do with it, and if you think someone has to have watched a lot of hetero-male oriented anime in order to be taken seriously, then you need to take a closer look at anime and the idea of 'fanservice' in regards to the intelligence of those sopping it up.
AND ILL TELL U HOW THIS GIVES ANIME A BAD NAME, its people like u that make anime a weird and crazy messed up thing that is to forever be covered in dust in the back of the movie store
Who are you kidding? Maybe in the US, but not in Japan, and not in cultured areas where anime is commonplace. Yami no Matsuei is available in video stores in rural Indiana - out in the bonefied boondocks. If it's all the way out there, I can guarantee it's on the shelves in larger cities where anime shops actually exist. The fact that I can walk into a video rental and get a shonen ai or yaoi anime - here in the sticks - shows that it isn't being hidden. Maybe you aren't looking hard enough. The only reason it isn't as widespread as the het anime is just because there are more het anime, and US buyers tend to target young audiences with the kiddie adventure series like Digimon and Sailormoon (which *also* has yaoi in it, they just switched the genders for the US kiddies so they wouldn't know). If it's hidden here, it's only because of narrowminded liberals - the same people who always move to oppress those who don't conform to their standards. Nothing to brag about there. And that's largest in the US, and has nothing to do with those actually *creating* the anime itself - in Japan.
AND it ruins existing anime (oh dear god, poor poor eva, wut hav they done to u)
What have *who* done to it? The creators? If you don't like what the creator puts into his anime, don't watch it. If you mean fans who take a certain odd relationship and try to explain it using yaoi terms, then read warnings better - you can avoid fanfics and vids if you just make it a habit to look at the warnings before you click.
ALL OF THE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WHO CAN MAKE AN ARGUEMENT WITHOUT CONTRADICTING THEMSELVES IN LESS THAT ONE LINE, proceed with the flaming.
No point flaming you. ^_^; I'm afraid nothing I say will make you look worse than your own post did.

And good luck with your training, but you might want to take it to another thread. ^.~
Ummmmm, Arigatomyna, maybe u should learn to read before u talk.

1. WERE U NOT PAYING ATTENTION! Wut did i say about words of another language, i might be able to rebut u u said if i understood most of it, u may wanna actually pay attention to wut OTHER ppl say, instead of just rambling on about ur own views, i mean, i ramble, but at least i show sum evidence that i read

2. The whloe point of mentioning the animes Love Hina, etc. (WHICH I AM OUTRAGED BY THE FACT U NEGLECTED TO MENTION Ah MyGoddess!:lol:
The purpose was to show, that THERE ARE non violent, non porn animes out there, in order to show that the point ithaqua made:
ithaqua wrote: Second, how is this giving anime a bad name? Because some of us don't focus on the violent aspects of anime like so many others? I don't even watch that much anime myself.
is compleatly invalid because the shows i mentioned arent violent, so u cant argue that yaoi is the only thing out there, and thats y u watch it, and not because u like seeing hot sweaty gay men get it on. and so Arigatomyna, i would like to thank u for agreeing with me and further proving my point by mentioning even more shows, man(or woman wutever u r) ur the best :wink:

Thus i would like to give u a gift for you aid to me in this arguement

*tapes up package of hooked on phonics and puts stamps on*

u should give it 6 to 8 weeks for delivery

You know wut belongs, again dun take it personal, its just fun (looks like the training is paying off)

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Post by Arigatomina » Mon Dec 29, 2003 5:41 am

Tidus_F_F_X wrote:Ummmmm, Arigatomyna, maybe u should learn to read before u talk.
I won't bother responding to that. And there's no need to quote my post - not if you aren't going to reply to any of my comments. That just wastes space.
The purpose was to show, that THERE ARE non violent, non porn animes out there
Which I countered by reminding you of how violent Love Hina is with the slapstick humor against the main male character, and how close to porn it is with its ecchi (meaning nearly hentai) nature of fanservice. If you'd read my post you would have caught that.
...because the shows i mentioned arent violent
I disagree, at least with Love Hina - which was my main point.
so u cant argue that yaoi is the only thing out there, and thats y u watch itand not because u like seeing hot sweaty gay men get it on
Ithaqua never said yaoi was the only thing out there. You're putting words in his mouth - reread the quote you put of his - he never said that. He merely said that he hadn't seen much anime and that he disliked violent anime.

And if you want to show that there are other *nonviolent* anime out there, don't bring up an anime known for how many times the main guy can be beaten up and thrown around by the girls. That is violence as much as a guy punching another guy. The only difference is that it's also fanservice for those who like seeing girls beat up on guys. Either way - violence is violence.
and so Arigatomyna, i would like to thank u for agreeing with me and further proving my point by mentioning even more shows, man(or woman wutever u r) ur the best :wink:
Nah, I wasn't agreeing. I was merely arguing that your claim of 'Love Hina' being non-violent and non-porn was a very bad example since there's violence done to the main guy quite often in the series, and fanservice like that comes close enough to porn - just not quite hentai. And then your comments toward the end were simply in 'poor taste' so I had to note those. And if you'll notice, the other anime I mentioned *were* yaoi anime, which didn't at all further your argument in favor of non-violent non-yaoi anime. Of course there are non-violent non-yaoi anime out there, but how many are going to appeal to all fans? Few. You can't argue with what a person chooses to enjoy.

[And yes, I know I left out AMG - as a female who prefers strong female anime characters, I find the submissive role of Beldandy to be very unappealing. For someone with that much power, she sure knows how to be the epitome of the sweet softspoken and obedient female, useless except when she's being used by the men around her, or is doing favors for the men around her. I don't even like to talk about that anime.]

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Post by Moonlight Soldier » Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:46 pm

Ari, I really admire you for actually making that much effort, even though the person can't appreciate it.

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Post by Arigatomina » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:11 pm

Moonlight Soldier wrote:Ari, I really admire you for actually making that much effort, even though the person can't appreciate it.
Thanks. ^_^;;

But I really should stop cluttering up this thread with what has somehow become a discussion of non-yaoi anime. o.O

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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:19 pm

No, you should really stop cluttering this thread because it's become flooded with yaoi fans that are just in denial. I really don't remember ever seeing anyone as retarded as Tidus here.
Kusoyaro: We don't need a leader. We need to SHUT UP. Make what you want to make, don't make you what you don't want to make. If neither of those applies to you, then you need to SHUT UP MORE.

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:24 pm

I'm not gay! I'm not gay! But watching yaoi will make you gay!

YAOI HAS MADE YOU GAY
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Post by Moonlight Soldier » Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:42 pm

I lose respect for you just about everytime you post.

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Post by angelx03 » Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:01 pm

Moonlight Soldier wrote:I lose respect for you just about everytime you post.
I lost respect of her ever since except when she announced that Animatrix teaser trailer.
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Post by DJ_Izumi » Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:02 pm

What's wrong with my Animatrix? ;_;
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Post by angelx03 » Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:06 pm

DJ_Izumi wrote:What's wrong with my Animatrix? ;_;
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with your Animatrix.
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