Disqualified from VCA. Reason is confusing.

DarkArbiter · Post by **DarkArbiter** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 3:24 pm

I got an e-mail saying that one of my videos may qualify for this years VCA but I was pending disqualification for sorted reasons. One was

"No Indication for all videos in catalog"

And the other was

"Has videos with only non-anime footage"

I read the rules but still don't understand what the first one means. Some time ago I put in a request to merge 2 videos because one was entered in error. The request has been pending ever since but never handled. Is this the thing getting flagged?

As for the second. I've made several videos using American animation. (but never live action) Do those disqualify me from the contest forever?

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 3:47 pm

The first one means you have to tick the box in your main profile that says "all my videos are listed" or words to that effect.

Instead of requesting a merge (which is hard to do) you can request a video to be deleted using the link at the bottom of the edit my videos page.

All the videos using american cartoons are non-anime and will disqualify you forever unless you delete them, yes.

DarkArbiter · Post by **DarkArbiter** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:06 pm

I put in a request for the deletion just for cleanliness sake. Though I don't intend on deleting my non-anime videos. Is there a place on the site where "Anime" is defined?

I understand that the whole AMV movement started with Japanese cartoons but it seems really unfair or even racist to say "Only cartoons made in japan qualify"

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:11 pm

Anime = animation made in japan or made under instruction from japanese companies. That's the definition the org uses as it is the way it is most commonly used in the english.

Anime does not mean "cartoons you think are cool" or "cartoons that arent for kids".

DarkArbiter · Post by **DarkArbiter** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:59 pm

Thats fine. But there are many good videos in this catalog to non japanese cartoons. Are you saying the "Anime" part of the name is more important than the "Music Video" part?

I hope I won't get kicked off the forum or saying so. But what makes Japan so important? I thought the purpose of making videos was creativity and art not celebrating a country.

Savia · Post by **Savia** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 6:01 pm

DarkArbiter wrote:Thats fine. But there are many good videos in this catalog to non japanese cartoons. Are you saying the "Anime" part of the name is more important than the "Music Video" part?

I hope I won't get kicked off the forum or saying so. But what makes Japan so important? I thought the purpose of making videos was creativity and art not celebrating a country.

All true, but there are places for non-anime videos, and this isn't one of them. The site was created for anime music videos, and therefore that is its purpose. Although I think that we can all recognise worthiness in other cartoons or what have you as source for a video, that's not what this site, admittedly and openly specialist, is for.

That's my two cents.

VegettoEX · Post by **VegettoEX** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 6:08 pm

DarkArbiter wrote:Thats fine. But there are many good videos in this catalog to non japanese cartoons. Are you saying the "Anime" part of the name is more important than the "Music Video" part?

I hope I won't get kicked off the forum or saying so. But what makes Japan so important? I thought the purpose of making videos was creativity and art not celebrating a country.

It really comes down to the fact that this site is called <B>Anime</B>MusicVideos.org. No-one's denying the coolness and/or importance of music videos using any kind of other footage (be it live action or American animation)... but that's not what <B>this</B> site is for.

I wouldn't go to BemaniStyle and upload a traditional dance chart... it's for DWIs. Dancing and DDR may have similar backgrounds, but that's not what BemaniStyle is for... it's for DWIs. It's the same way, here.

DarkArbiter · Post by **DarkArbiter** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 7:03 pm

Places for non-anime videos on the internet? I was honestly unaware of that fact. I don't really do alot of surfing. Well thanks for explaining that for me.

I still don't think its fair to disqualify an anime video because the creator made other non-anime videos though. Just seems to much like punishing people for having other interests.

Snackpants · Post by **Snackpants** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:09 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote: All the videos using american cartoons are non-anime and will disqualify you forever unless you delete them, yes.

What a crock... what does Anime mean? *chuckle* Elistist goobers.

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 10:29 pm

DarkArbiter wrote:Places for non-anime videos on the internet? I was honestly unaware of that fact. I don't really do alot of surfing. Well thanks for explaining that for me.

Google "fanvids" plus the series/movies you're working from. I only know of sites for movie-based vids (www.fanflix.com) and a couple of mailing lists for live-action TV-based vids. Or, ask a message board for the series in question. I'd bet someone's heard of it.

(Seriously, I keep answering this question.

I lurk around lists for live-action vidding because I think it's an interesting counterpart to AMVing.)

I still don't think its fair to disqualify an anime video because the creator made other non-anime videos though. Just seems to much like punishing people for having other interests.

Big fallacy there: you're not being "punished" for making them, you're being "punished" for putting them on the site. Nobody ever said "never make non-anime videos," they just said "find somewhere else to display/list/host them."