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Post by taeli » Fri May 21, 2004 1:39 am

demented wrote:A fellow Wong Kar-Wai fan, hell yeah! I love Chungking Express, everytime I hear 'California Dreaming' I can't get that image of Faye Wong grooving out of my head. Her cover of that Cranberries song was rather hypnotic too
Yaaay :D Chungking Express is my favourite ever film. And that scene of her playing with the toy plane is in my opinion is the definitive music video. Nothing can compete.


Anyone who liked Lost in Translation should give it a go, it was heavily influenced by it I'm sure; Sofia Coppola referenced Wong Kar-Wai her Oscar speech.

I really wanted to get the train to Cannes were it not for these fecking exams. Would have killed to see 2046 there, it finally gets a theatrical release over here in October :( Hopefully someone'll manage to get a decent quality copy on the web soon. (sod morality, I'll buy a cinema ticket and the dvd soon enough for sure >_<)

Shit better keep this on topic. OUTKAST!!! BUCK65!!! SOLE!!!

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Post by DDramone » Fri May 21, 2004 2:52 pm

ne one heard of mr. skinhead rock?

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Post by demented » Fri May 21, 2004 6:03 pm

DDramone wrote:ne one heard of mr. skinhead rock?
nope. By that name, I'm assuming s/he/they're skinhead(s)? and s/he/they play rock/ska/punk ?
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Post by Unsent Vibes » Fri May 21, 2004 9:49 pm

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Kitstune3 wrote:Hip Hop by far is the most diverse genre of music, you got rap to laid back jazz, rap to r and b type shit, rap to electronic, rap to guitar riffs, everything.
If you can find me rappers who rap about trolls who come down from a mountian and kill christians while playing accordians in a language other than english, I'll be willing to consider this a truth.
I don't know about trolls who comes down from a mountian and kill christians while playing accordians in a language other than english, but I know in Sole's Bottle of Humans song he raps about burning down the walls of the villiage, storming the castle, running up to damsels and taking them to the river to spawn. Anticon, son, Hip-Hop music for the advancement of a racist race called man.

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Post by )v(ajin Koji » Sat May 22, 2004 5:07 am

My views on rap (emphasis on MY):

Right, I used to like rap, y'know the whole Eminem scene...when I was about 13 and thought that swearing was bloody cool. In the 5 years since then my tastes in music have radically changed-although I'm very much into indie (Feeder being my favourite band) I now listen to pretty much anything, even classical which I used to have a major predjudice towards.

I' not a big fan of "Screamo" bands and I'm not much of a fan of "Bitch-'Ass'" rapping, but all I see from the fans is them having a go at the other side about how bad the other is.

I think rapping is just black people talking fast and "Screamo" rock is just a lot of teenagers who need prosac.

That is my VERY generalised view on rap...and "Screamo" rock too, apparently.

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Post by demented » Sat May 22, 2004 12:52 pm

)v(ajin Koji wrote:My views on rap (emphasis on MY):

Right, I used to like rap, y'know the whole Eminem scene...when I was about 13 and thought that swearing was bloody cool. In the 5 years since then my tastes in music have radically changed-although I'm very much into indie (Feeder being my favourite band) I now listen to pretty much anything, even classical which I used to have a major predjudice towards.

I' not a big fan of "Screamo" bands and I'm not much of a fan of "Bitch-'Ass'" rapping, but all I see from the fans is them having a go at the other side about how bad the other is.

I think rapping is just black people talking fast and "Screamo" rock is just a lot of teenagers who need prosac.

That is my VERY generalised view on rap...and "Screamo" rock too, apparently.

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Yeah, I can feel where you're getting at. But I do have something to say about the matter. Aside from the mainstream partying rap that you most likely have been listening to, the other themes of rap is also about : Race, social structure, social status, and financial status.

A rather large portion (at least one third) of rap fans out here in America are in fact, White while the rest of the fanbase are ethnic minorities of all sorts... the largest being Black and Latin American. There is a major difference between the two sets. Most, not all but most, of the White fans are from the suburban areas, living away from the inner-city which is what rap is most vocal about. They may be heavily into rap at first because of all the hit party singles they have heard on the radio, or have seen on MTV... but once they actually buy an album that is vocal about all the social issues such as: guns, rival gangs, best friends or relatives killed, and racial profiling. How is the Higher-class fan gonna relate to that? They just grow out of it because they couldn't relate to it and look to other music they could relate to. Rap to most of these people are just a trend, and has no real personal effect to them.

Suburban fans may find rappers making songs about all the social issues that I mentioned above to be rather silly because they had never lived through it. Its very different with people from the inner-city however. They actually have experienced that stuff before. To them, the content of the rapper's lyrics are very close to their truth. They can idenitfy with rap because the content of the rap that they listen to is very similar to they live themselves.

I believe that you were part of the "Anime Isn't Personal Anymore" discussion that we had before. Very much the same thing.
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Post by Otohiko » Sat May 22, 2004 1:50 pm

Yea, and I agree with that.

Myself, I'm just too distant from the world that rappers seem to be about, and I'm not denying it. But that's not because I'm higher-class, it's because the things that happened to me and life and the sorts of problems and issues I dealt with are very different.

I don't think people should dismiss rap as bad music, but it's probably no closer to some people's concerns than prog rock is to those of an inner-city youth.

Different people, different worlds, different fields of concern. Doesn't mean one is better or more real than the other. Just different.
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Post by Vlad86 » Sat May 22, 2004 4:05 pm

Otohiko wrote:Yea, and I agree with that.

Myself, I'm just too distant from the world that rappers seem to be about, and I'm not denying it. But that's not because I'm higher-class, it's because the things that happened to me and life and the sorts of problems and issues I dealt with are very different.

I don't think people should dismiss rap as bad music, but it's probably no closer to some people's concerns than prog rock is to those of an inner-city youth.

Different people, different worlds, different fields of concern. Doesn't mean one is better or more real than the other. Just different.
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Yeah, it may pain some people to hear this, but I think the whole rap/rock issue has something to do with ethnical backgrounds and how that person grew up in life. Why I'm saying person and not generalizing on one group of people is:

A) Genaralizing (aka stereotyping) is stupid and gets you nowhere

B) You could have someone of a minority group that grew up in a rich family or somone in a majority group grow up in a big city slum area.

So once again, I think music is a combination of personal preferences (your musical taste) and your experiences in life. Technically then, this means everyone has unique musical likes that can agree with some, while clashing with others.


Also, this might be random, but, whoever said good music had to have lyrics?
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Post by DDramone » Sat May 22, 2004 11:56 pm

nope. By that name, I'm assuming s/he/they're skinhead(s)? and s/he/they play rock/ska/punk ?
i think he's the raper from the transplants... i saw him on connan obrien when rancid were playing the song red hot moon. he did the rapping part that lars did on the CD.

infact, i did a video to that footage, mixing it with ff9 stuff!

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