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Post by dwchang » Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:06 pm

mckeed wrote:The perfect blue video was mine. That video has been shown at a few conventions allready without any problems. Its been getting great reviews here at the org. I even cleared that video with the co-ordinators before I sent it in. I had a censored version that I offered to send but was told that the non-censored version wansn't a problem. Your the first person to really complain about it that I've heard of. I'm sorry it offended you but you just need to chill out. Its just animated. You missed the whole point of the video, but i didn't expect some people to get it as they would have gotten to hung up on the nudity as you did.
I think I saw the censored version of the video at Anime Central and there were people complaining there and on their forums. It was censored and I personally had no problems with it, but it looks like some parents did (even censored).

Either way, if you cleared it with the coordinator, I don't really see anything "wrong" on your part.
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Post by Fungie½ » Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:38 pm

ErMaC wrote:Don't let anneke's crap bother you; I don't. :roll:
Since when did crap = opinion? Everyone here is entitled to their own opinion, and there will always be someone who didn't like a video as much as someone else.
mckeed wrote:The perfect blue video was mine. That video has been shown at a few conventions allready without any problems. Its been getting great reviews here at the org. I even cleared that video with the co-ordinators before I sent it in. I had a censored version that I offered to send but was told that the non-censored version wansn't a problem. Your the first person to really complain about it that I've heard of. I'm sorry it offended you but you just need to chill out. Its just animated. You missed the whole point of the video, but i didn't expect some people to get it as they would have gotten to hung up on the nudity as you did."
I've seen your Perfect Blue video in the past, and it's definately a very good video and strongly emotional AMV. However, I would never show it in public because of the content. I thought Anime Boston rejected it due to content? Even though it is animated, who's to say that you can't show something very deep and emotional through animation? That's what Perfect Blue did. You have to take into consideration that she is not the only person to be offended by this video, and that the contest was not PG-13 and will offend people.

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Post by anneke » Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:40 pm

Didn't say it was his fault. It was the contest's fault for allowing the video to be shown. I have no problem with nudity (I make Yaoi and Hentai AMVs).

Perfect Blue is not PG-13 material, because of the situations that are covered. The medium used (anime) to cover such issues doesn't matter. You can say it's just a cartoon/anime, but it's still dealing with adult situations.

My problem was that such situations were shown to children. If I was a parent, I would be upset if my thirteen year old, or my seven year old saw the video. Guess what, at Fanime, because it's a large convention you do get children that young in the audience. Now we can't make videos all G rated, but they need to atleast be PG-13.

If you noticed I said these were problems with the contest, not the video.

As for the action video... It's not a bad video, however other videos did get clearly larger audience response. However they didn't have the larger audience. Again it's the contest that should have regulated that people, who missed the begining videos should not have voted on the category. They even said that some videos won by a difference of only 4 votes. (And trust me, more then 4 people came in after the first videos were shown.)

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Post by Beowulf » Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:47 pm

This thread = Reason #59674 why all cons suck except AWA.

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Post by HurQlez03 » Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:51 pm

ErMaC wrote:(see my brief set of reviews I posted to the AMV Mailing list on Sunday).
Where can I find that?
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Post by ErMaC » Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:57 pm

See here. Be warned, I was somewhat critical of your video.

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Post by ErMaC » Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:09 pm

Also wanted to make a brief point about people getting pissed off at the judges...

Why are people surprised when the judges pick something different than the audience? If the judges always picked the same videos, what would be the point of having judge's awards at all? The judges use different criteria to rate the video than an audience does. Why else do you think Comedy has won Fanime's audience choice award for the last 4 years?

It'd be like people complaining the Academy Awards don't recognize the movies that made the most money that year, or wondering why the MTV Movie Awards didn't like the same films that won Oscars. DUH!

I think the way Fanime's contest does their awards is great - you have a set of Judges who gives our awards based on their criteria, and the fans also get to give awards to the videos they liked. Everyone's happy.

As for the judges, I have no idea who they were, but Scott told me he has two or three different rounds of judging with completely different people. If I truly were to have "tainted" the judges somehow, it would've taken a whole lot of work. But then again, I guess I have no "integrity" so that sort of thing isn't beyond me. :roll:

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Post by Starherd » Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:11 pm

wwf_htm wrote:
well... it was picked by the judges and from what i can see none of the judges' picks matched up with the viewers' picks. i don't want to take anything away from your win as i'm sure that your video was above average, but i find the whole judging process both weird and disturbing. who are these judges and what standards are they using?
It's not just you... I've noticed that they're kinda off for the past three years, at least (and I've only been going for four years). I can understand the judges wanting to pick something different than the viewers, but they always seem to pick the opposite end of the spectrum, y'know? @_@

Plus, I can't believe my Irish Enchilada vid made it into the finals over the Let This Be the End of Evangelion vid that C & C Productions made. LTBtEoE has humor that makes sense to just about everybody, whereas Irish Enchilada's humor is largely based upon knowing that Farfarello is supposedly Irish, according to Weiss Kreuz canon. o_O We added it on a whim - what I was really submitting was the re-do of my Trigun vid! :-P

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Post by Fungie½ » Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:16 pm

ErMaC's Yahoo Groups Review wrote: Fungie - Mikako's Hope
Enya/Hoshi No Koe
I didn't like this video. The video quality on it was crap, interlacing everywhere, and there wasn't enough of a connection between song and show. Take slow moving song, pair with slow, moving anime, mix together, out comes video. No thanks, I want more."
I'm sorry the video quality was bad, as I am still learning, but I don't think that video quality has very much to do with how a video is as a whole. You can make an incredibly good video was horrible footage, or a horrible video with good footage. I'm sorry you didn't understand what I was trying to convey, but in Hoshi no Koe, I felt that the main theme the director was trying to convey was a feeling of hope: hope that Mikako would stay alive, hope that Noboru would hold out for Mikako, hope that the two could eventually love each other again. The song "Hope Has a Place" conveys these feelings too, such as "whispering words have sailed out sigh" and the feelings of the two being told through space. I tried to connect the two together that also conveyed my feelings for my boyfriend at the time, and the video has some personal undertones that I don't believe others would understand. It also was not a simple "mix and out comes video", because as I'm sure you know, you've got to start with some ingredients and instructions before you start to make the cake. I put a lot of thought into this video, and I'm sorry if you couldn't see that. Obviously people here though didn't see what was so good about "Extraordinary World". Maybe we both have problems conveying our messages to fans.

In any case, it's good to hear some feedback from people, and I appreciate your comments.

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Post by Starherd » Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:19 pm

ErMaC wrote:JCD, I am not surprised at all your video won best action. It was my 2nd choice for best action, and I thought it was an awesome video (see my brief set of reviews I posted to the AMV Mailing list on Sunday). Your award was well deserved. Don't let anneke's crap bother you; I don't. :roll:
Dude, she didn't say it was a bad video, just that the poor time slot for the contest resulted in the first few vids not getting a fair chance. Try reading her post before you slam her, please.

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