Operating Systems (OS)?

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:14 pm

Assuming no more delay.

More likely 2008 or so.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:34 pm

I use Gentoo Linux, Debian GNU/Linux, Slackware, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, SunOS, Solaris, Mac OS X, Windows XP...

It's really a matter of using the best tool for the job. I really don't believe there is any "best" operating system :P

...although I am partial to Free and Open Source software.

DrngdKreationz · Post by **DrngdKreationz** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:05 pm

Back when I used to do alot of Audio editing for myself and a few other Dj's I hung out with I tried Redhat linux but the software at the time was still in it's alpha versions and pretty much sucked ass. I personally loved having linux in general except for one thing. I didn't realize how Root WAS GOD and if you want to shoot yourself in the foot while your logged on as root.... don't expect it to ask you if you're sure.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:42 pm

DrngdKreationz wrote:Back when I used to do alot of Audio editing for myself and a few other Dj's I hung out with I tried Redhat linux but the software at the time was still in it's alpha versions and pretty much sucked ass. I personally loved having linux in general except for one thing. I didn't realize how Root WAS GOD and if you want to shoot yourself in the foot while your logged on as root.... don't expect it to ask you if you're sure.

Well, yeah.

On pre-NT and post-/including XP Home Windows systems you have the same capability to rape the system, except that it's not called root. It's "your everyday user" :P

The superuser/user concept is something that is very nice to have, but is still a little too general. I'd personally like to see more fine-grained security controls in widespread use, although they can be a pain in the ass to set up.

DrngdKreationz · Post by **DrngdKreationz** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:56 pm

trythil wrote:
DrngdKreationz wrote:Back when I used to do alot of Audio editing for myself and a few other Dj's I hung out with I tried Redhat linux but the software at the time was still in it's alpha versions and pretty much sucked ass. I personally loved having linux in general except for one thing. I didn't realize how Root WAS GOD and if you want to shoot yourself in the foot while your logged on as root.... don't expect it to ask you if you're sure.
Well, yeah.

On pre-NT and post-/including XP Home Windows systems you have the same capability to rape the system, except that it's not called root. It's "your everyday user"

The superuser/user concept is something that is very nice to have, but is still a little too general. I'd personally like to see more fine-grained security controls in widespread use, although they can be a pain in the ass to set up.

Yeah I have to agree with all of that. I did like the whole Su/us system. But I was only explained the concept after my second reinstall in just as many days.

jasper-isis · Post by **jasper-isis** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:36 pm

I had been on Windows 2000 up until two weeks ago. The stability was great, but my hardware was pretty lacking, and that added a lot of inconvenience. Now I'm running Windows XP Media Center Edition on a really nice new PC. I must say that XP definitely isn't as stable, but the increased speed makes the occasional crash a bit more forgivable.

I'm still not sure how the Media Center Edition is supposed to compare to Home Edition or Professional Edition. I haven't even set up the funky remote control or used the Media Center software yet. But whatever. As long as the computer does what I want it to do without making a giant fuss, I'll be happy.

Now is probably a good time to bring up the Apple Switch Parody. The uhh... "real" one.

Bakadeshi [AuN Studios] · Post by **Bakadeshi [AuN Studios]** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:02 am

trythil wrote:I use Gentoo Linux, Debian GNU/Linux, Slackware , FreeBSD, OpenBSD, SunOS, Solaris, Mac OS X, Windows XP...

It's really a matter of using the best tool for the job. I really don't believe there is any "best" operating system

...although I am partial to Free and Open Source software.

Slackware was my all time favorite back in the day. Thats how I learned linux. good times.

If you do choose to installl linux, I'd dualboot with a microsoft OS. You could try a virtual PC also if you got a killer system.

Wheee_It's_Me! · Post by **Wheee_It's_Me!** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:34 am

Jasper-Isis wrote:I had been on Windows 2000 up until two weeks ago. The stability was great, but my hardware was pretty lacking, and that added a lot of inconvenience. Now I'm running Windows XP Media Center Edition on a really nice new PC. I must say that XP definitely isn't as stable, but the increased speed makes the occasional crash a bit more forgivable.

I'm still not sure how the Media Center Edition is supposed to compare to Home Edition or Professional Edition. I haven't even set up the funky remote control or used the Media Center software yet. But whatever. As long as the computer does what I want it to do without making a giant fuss, I'll be happy.

Now is probably a good time to bring up the Apple Switch Parody. The uhh... "real" one.

Either you installed your software incorrectly or your "nice new PC" is a nice new piece of junk. I just BUILT a brand new system a few months back, has an MSI E7505 dual processor server workstation board, with 2 2.4Ghz Xeon processors, 2 250GB 7200rpm 8mb cache Maxtor HDs, 4GBs of Infinion dual channel, ECC, PC-3200 400MHz memory, liquid cooling system for the HDs and processor and a Radeon 9800 XT 256MB video card. Main OS is a specially modified version of Windows XP Professional Edition, SP1. Wanna know how often my system crashes? Never. But then I didn't buy parts off of Ebay or down at my local Staples. It's a little known fact that most system stability problems are cause by shit memory.

YouTube · Post by **derobert** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:57 am

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:It's a little known fact that most system stability problems are cause by shit memory.

That's quite true. Bad memory will bring down ANY operating system.

If you spend money on ECC, the bad memory will just bring down your OS.

If you don't spend money for ECC, the bad memorywill still bring down your OS, but only after corrupting your data.

My advice is that any time you touch the mainboard, processor, or memory (especially memory), run memtest86[+]. Personally, I run it for at least a few days on new systems. Don't load the OS first (if you load an OS with bad memory in the box, format and reinstall. You need to.)

http://www.memtest86.com/ or http://www.memtest.org/

jasper-isis · Post by **jasper-isis** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:38 am

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:Either you installed your software incorrectly or your "nice new PC" is a nice new piece of junk. I just BUILT a brand new system a few months back, has an MSI E7505 dual processor server workstation board, with 2 2.4Ghz Xeon processors, 2 250GB 7200rpm 8mb cache Maxtor HDs, 4GBs of Infinion dual channel, ECC, PC-3200 400MHz memory, liquid cooling system for the HDs and processor and a Radeon 9800 XT 256MB video card. Main OS is a specially modified version of Windows XP Professional Edition, SP1. Wanna know how often my system crashes? Never. But then I didn't buy parts off of Ebay or down at my local Staples. It's a little known fact that most system stability problems are cause by shit memory.

About half of my new computer IS custom-built. I personally added the extra RAM chips myself. And I'm not talking about a major system crash where everything is lost (that's never happened to me before). I mean when a program (like Premiere) crashes. Yes I know that Premiere is buggy everywhere. I only attributed it to the OS because it didn't crash as much on my Win2k machine... and that was when I had a lousy PII. But then it could be that some programs are better built for Win2k.

If all that sounded like I did't know what I'm talking about, fine. I don't consider myself a complete expert on computers like you guys, but I don't need to. I've already got everything I need to keep things running smoothly. What the heck would I ever do with such a souped-up comp like yours? Please don't act condescendingly just because you have a better box of wires and silicon than I do. Of course I know to never buy a machine from staples or ebay... or even Dell for that matter.