AMV Creator to Music Video Director

HurQlez03 · Post by **HurQlez03** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:01 pm

Here is an question I have been brewing up. If an AMV creator was given the chance to direct a real Music Video for an artist, would he want to use the elements he used to make an AMV? quick scene changes, CGI effects, all that stuff.

AMV_4000 · Post by **AMV_4000** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:16 pm

HurQlez03 wrote:Here is an question I have been brewing up. If an AMV creator was given the chance to direct a real Music Video for an artist, would he want to use the elements he used to make an AMV? quick scene changes, CGI effects, all that stuff.

if given the chance i would, and yes i would use what i have learned so far... and it would accually probably look pretty nice...

Bote · Post by **Bote** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:18 pm

I was given to edit a commercial for a local TV station and I DID want to use exactly the same things as in AMV's. The problem? It's completely unnecessary for me to put so much effort in it cause I'll be paid the same.

When I worked on it I had two versions of the video: a completely timing based one (meaning good use of rubberbanding and transparency) and a totally simple one with few fades and cuts (and they weren't even in place

). So I asked: Which one do you like better? The answer was: What's the difference? They'll both achieve the same. Meh, I gave her the first cause that's the one I thought was better.

After that I simply didn't want to approach all other projects with such seriousness as any of my AMV's. Except the one that I worked in 3D (dancing bootle of beer...what idiocy

). To answer your question: Yes, you have the will and want to and you can, but it's unnecessary.

badmartialarts · Post by **badmartialarts** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:21 pm

Heck, if I could film the stuff, and have costuming, and effects...why the heck would I want all those cuts...unless they worked for the idea I had. I have next to no experience with directing (been directed in plays before, though, but never sat myself in the chair) but the basic premise is quite similar to editing: you take elements of form and music and create something to visually and aurally stimulate the viewer.

Take, for example, KoRn's video for "Freak on a Leash" (directed by Todd McFarlane, right or wrong?). The whole 'flying bullet' visual ties a lot of scenes into a coherent whole, that really has nothing to do with the song but is still interesting to watch. I've been considering trying to make an AMV in the same way (using scenes that really have nothing to do with the song, or each other, linked by a common theme....). Oh wait, that's done every day. It called (in my book) a "seizure flash action video" and the common theme is "a flash on every beat!"

Or, how about a newer video, "Confessions Part 2" by Usher. Thematically, the video fits with the lyrics extremely well, while still allowing Usher his dance time. I've considered doing an AMV like this too, where the lyrics tie in with the actions of one character. Oh wait. That's a character profile, people do those a lot too.

See where I'm going with this?

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:26 pm

Well, I suppose the core idea is the same, a visual representation of the song. The execution, though, is very different, and a number of points come to mind:

Music videos of the tend to be about focusing on the artist(s), showing off visually, trying to make the song more memorable. They don't always bring any extra depth to the song, or explore underlying meanings. Heck, most of the time they just come across as something to keep the eyes busy so the viewer can be convinved to buy the CD.

(Disclaimer: I don't watch MTV, or much TV at all, but the few music videos I've seen from MTV just come across at the artist(s) going "Hey! I'm cool! Give me money!". Or maybe that's just me, and I have this freakish view from who-knows-where, your call.)

The question is whether the same concepts apply and work with live action. I suppose the experience would be very different, with having the power to shape the material, instead of working from a largely (because original art can work) set source pool. If you're going for the same sort of emotional depth that better AMVs have, yeah, you should probably use the same techniques. Again, maybe it's just me, but I'm of the opinion that a certain sort of evolution is at work when it comes to techniques, in terms on what works, and what doesn't. You know, these things build this mood, and those things shatter the same, etc.

Or maybe I'm just thinking too hard about this (which is quite possible).

Coffee 54 · Post by **Coffee 54** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:32 pm

Kalium wrote:Music videos of the tend to be about focusing on the artist(s), showing off visually, trying to make the song more memorable. They don't always bring any extra depth to the song, or explore underlying meanings. Heck, most of the time they just come across as something to keep the eyes busy so the viewer can be convinved to buy the CD.

Agreed, has anyone seen the actual video for Hoobastank's The Reason? What the hell does a Jewel heist have to do with that song? It's still a nice video, but it's missing things like lyric sync. It seems to be good, all a regular music video needs are some cuts to the band, and a couple of pretty girls.

AMV_4000 · Post by **AMV_4000** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:35 pm

coffee54 wrote:
Kalium wrote:Music videos of the tend to be about focusing on the artist(s), showing off visually, trying to make the song more memorable. They don't always bring any extra depth to the song, or explore underlying meanings. Heck, most of the time they just come across as something to keep the eyes busy so the viewer can be convinved to buy the CD.
Agreed, has anyone seen the actual video for Hoobastank's The Reason? What the hell does a Jewel heist have to do with that song? It's still a nice video, but it's missing things like lyric sync. It seems to be good, all a regular music video needs are some cuts to the band, and a couple of pretty girls.

i have seen another hoobastank video, i think its a whole story of a jewl heist... or something like that...

XspitfireDemonX · Post by **XspitfireDemonX** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:47 pm

Many a time have I thought of that while watching MTV. I look at real music vids as I look at AMVs. I honestly wouldn't if givin the chance just because of the fact that I wouldn't be in complete control of the consept or editing because of the artists hand in editing/consepts.

Shun · Post by **Shun** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:01 pm

No, I wouldn't. I make AMV's for the brain candy. I enjoy listening to a song and feeling that click of enjoyment when i get an idea. Being able to go through an entire series to get the footage you want out of it and then being able to assemble it all with whatever skills you have learned so far.

I believe that making an actual music video would be quite different. Seeing as how you would be making the footage instead of finding it. I wouldn't get nearly the same level of enjoyment out of it.

-Xoninmuoshda- · Post by **-Xoninmuoshda-** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:22 pm

that's my sole purpose for doing amvs. to take my expirience with me and use my works for my portfolio and make a good career out of this hobbie of mine.

so basicly yea...i would use everything i have learned so far in a music video...depending on what kind of song and what kind of footage that has been collected for me to edit with.

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