New Gundam Thread

Heero_Yuy84 · Post by **Heero_Yuy84** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:29 pm

Unfortunately, it looks like that summary was in the thread that got locked...so...since I've got time to kill, here we go again.

(p.s. I'd like to state in advance, I get the feeling Yazan's squadron is prob. sadistic enough to handle the Tristars easily enough...as Zeon's aces went, they were kind of low men on the totem pole as opposed to Char or Shin Matsunaga.)

That aside...here we go:
UC 0083: After the events of Operation Stardust (hey, I can't say I was a big fan of the OVA, but it's a good way to set the stage,) the Earth Federation forms the special security branch known as the Titans to hunt down and take out any Zeon remnant groups.

Zoom forward

UC 0087: The universe is now of quite a different atmosphere from that of the One Year War. Most of the universe is now under the jack-booted heel of the Titans who, under the leadership of Jamitov Hymam and Bask Om, have taken it on themselves to use whatever force necessary to put down ANYTHING that can be seen as anti-Federation activity (one of the famous examples of this that comes up in the series is the 30th Bunch Incident, in which they used poison gas on a colony where a non-violent anti-EF protest was being held.)

With the EF unable to control that which they've created, a new group arises to challenge the Titans, the AEUG (or Anti-Earth United Government.) In spite of it's name, it's actually a combination of ex-Zeon as well as several EF officers who feel that the Titans have overstepped their bounds.

Caught up in the center of this conflict is a young boy and technical whiz-kid, Camille Vidan (...yeah, so the US release is spelling it Kamille Bidan...what can I say? Old habits die hard.) After a run-in with a Titans officer and stumbling onto an AEUG effort to try and steal the latest Titans MS, the Gundam Mk-II, he finds himself casting in his lot to try and put an end to the carnage.

The show is the first direct follow-up to the original series and features many returning faces including Amuro, Bright, Char, Hayato, Katz, and (albeit for only brief points) Mirai, Kai, Frau, and Sayla. Along with these, many new characters are introduced. While a dark addition to the franchise, still one of the best series in the timeline.

Coaxel Ethereal · Post by **Coaxel Ethereal** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:48 pm

i only caught random episodes of that, it seemed pretty cool but i was short on cash and a life at the time.

Black Tristars: Three members
Titians: Maybe a few thousand?

i put 20 on the titians

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'Not the suit but the skill'

I’ve always been a firm believer of tactics. Any situation can be overcome if you take decisive well planed action. There are a few moments I remember in many of the series were the rather basic and crude tactic of shear overwhelming numbers put gundam pilots in a pinch, and numerous other tactics that give those of less overall combat power an advantage.

Despite being a vet there are still some things I miss. It happens.

Even the mighty are willing to show their weakness, I am humbled, I do apologize

Coffee 54 · Post by **Coffee 54** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:09 pm

Zeta Gundams one of those series I've always wanted to see while short on money, time, and pretty much everything else. Also there's some worry that I wouldn't know what was going on without having seen the original.

GaavTheDemonDragonKing · Post by **GaavTheDemonDragonKing** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:07 pm

bear with me for a minute. I remember a Gundam show they had on adult swim a while back. it was diffrent then all the rest. its main focus was about this kid and basicly the episoids surronded him. it made no sense to me. I think his father worked at a military base. I cant remember but i beleive they where holding a new type of MS or even a Gundam Their were rumores of an attack being planed their and not a week later it was attacked. 2 or 3 Zakus attaked the base and here is where i get confused and start to get mixed up. I THINK they got into this seret MS or gundam and try to take it out of the city OR they destroyed it and was trying to get out of the city. not long after that 1 of the Zakus is shot down in the forest and the boy follows it their. cant remember much after that episiod but i beleive the boy was helping the Zeon out during the episoid but didnt know he was a Zeon.

what was the gundam show called cuz i have no clue

Heero_Yuy84 · Post by **Heero_Yuy84** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:09 am

That would be Gundam 0080: War In The Pocket.

The storyline:

The kid in question is Alfred Izuruha, a citizen of the neutral Libot colony in Side 6 (during the OYW, the whole cluster swore neutrality from both sides.) Up until this point, he and his friends have been enamored with the concept of war (being raised in a neutral colony away from the fighting, they don't see the dark side to it.) His father does indeed work on the base, which gives him a bit of a leg-up when he meets with Bernie. Bernie, as the newest member of the Zeonic commando group Cyclops Team, finds himself sent with them to infiltrate the colony where the EF has been working on building a new prototype Gundam in secret. As the series progresses, Al slowly learns the hard way that, in spite of what he believed, war isn't a game. Matters then become even more complicated when it turns out that the pilot of the prototype is his next-door neighbor, Christina McKenzie.

Overall, it's a good series. Quite sad and offering an interesting look at war (in this case seeing it through the eyes of a civilian.)

I have to admit, this is prob. one of the only animes I've ever gotten choked up watching.

GaavTheDemonDragonKing · Post by **GaavTheDemonDragonKing** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:15 pm

baah i still think the BTS can take out all of the Titains. nothing can defeat Doms cuz they Dom over anything else : P so sad to see them all get wasted by 1 stikin gundam. but what if they redid the series to get the Zeon ending, just imagin. They can go no further cuz EW ended it all but that doesnt mean they can change the past.

I know I know, you guys will post up a 3 page report explaining why my dreams will be crushed so dont bother.

if only their were more people like me, their arnt enough "dreamers" in the world. that live in a world of "what if". I think i should just watch the whole series and then rewrite the changes to make the Zeon win in the end and just post it up all over the web. maybe then my ideas will become big, but then who knows.

Coaxel Ethereal · Post by **Coaxel Ethereal** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:26 pm

Then I will lose all faith in logic, reason, and the human capacity for intellect.

I personally don’t mind the zeon, hell, you need the illness to create the cure, no zeon, no gundam.

The gundam series have always been in one respect or another about war, and really war itself in neither evil nor good. You can side with either and not be wrong. So rock on, zeon all the way!!!!

Heero_Yuy84 · Post by **Heero_Yuy84** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:55 am

GaavTheDemonDragonKing wrote:baah i still think the BTS can take out all of the Titains. nothing can defeat Doms cuz they Dom over anything else : P so sad to see them all get wasted by 1 stikin gundam. but what if they redid the series to get the Zeon ending, just imagin. They can go no further cuz EW ended it all but that doesnt mean they can change the past. I know I know, you guys will post up a 3 page report explaining why my dreams will be crushed so dont bother. if only their were more people like me, their arnt enough "dreamers" in the world. that live in a world of "what if". I think i should just watch the whole series and then rewrite the changes to make the Zeon win in the end and just post it up all over the web. maybe then my ideas will become big, but then who knows.

Would you believe Tomino already covered that?

The MSG novel trilogy (which IS available in English) is a considerably different telling wherein Zeon does wind up winning the war....it's an interesting read, even if it's a bit rushed in the final act.

As for the 'Dreamers vs realists' debate...

Hey, dreaming is one thing...but let's face it...you're talking about three oldtype pilots in what, by Titans standards, is outdated technology, trying to take on an entire organization. The idea of a small handful bringing down an entire organization is the stuff of Gundam Wing...

Again, dreaming is all well in good, but part of why Tomino made the Universal Century line was to try and bring a realistic aspect to the mecha genre.

GaavTheDemonDragonKing · Post by **GaavTheDemonDragonKing** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:42 am

yes yes i know but if they didnt die then they would still be alive. What if the Zeon scientists got better data from the BTS and made the Doms more powerfull. If one things changes everything changes, it doesnt stay the same you hear. and as for this "novel" i think they should make it into anime cuz then u get better aspect of it. well im done fighting about this and at least i brought up some interesting ideas.

Rock the cash!

Kajino Rei · Post by **Kajino Rei** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:02 pm

Yes, I'm with Duke on this one.
No Zeon, no Gundam.
Still believe the Gundam to be superior.
Then again most protagonist have to be.
When a protagonist fails, it's no fun.

Rock the cash, kill the stupid.