Is anyone here actually into REAL metal?

Unpronounceable_Symbol · Post by **Unpronounceable_Symbol** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 1:38 am

Real metal = GWAR

I kind of agree with the pacifistic hippy (if I may call you that, sir), music is really subjective. Listen to John Cage, or Merzbow, or some of the more out-there Nurse With Wound, and come back and tell me it's not subjective.

Well, maybe it won't seem subjective... I have a hard time convincing people that 40 minutes of screeching white noise sounds like music to me. :?

I remember in high school, in a class called Writing About Music, I completely derailed the teacher's lesson plan by bringing a piece by Slug called "Silver Man." It's twenty minutes of what sounds like incidental noise and feedback, like they left the tape running while they opened the door and took a smoke break or something. Nobody could explain exactly why they didn't think it was music, and I thought it was music.

Anyway, genres run on a similar concept. If people think something is metal, it becomes metal. Twenty years ago, most black metal bands would be thrown out of the same clubs where Poison and Ratt were playing (remember when they were "real" metal? Wow.) for being too loud and abraisive, of all things. Now when a band comes along who look and sound and act exactly like Poison and Ratt, they get labeled as a novelty act, played on pop radio and sell a lot of records in England, and the singer's falsetto annoys the hell out of me.

Farlo · Post by **Farlo** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:24 am

dictionary.com wrote:1. The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.

2. Vocal or instrumental sounds possessing a degree of melody, harmony, or rhythm.

3a. A musical composition.
3b. The written or printed score for such a composition.
3c. Such scores considered as a group: We keep our music in a stack near the piano.

4. A musical accompaniment.

5. A particular category or kind of music.

6. An aesthetically pleasing or harmonious sound or combination of sounds.

6 suits me best

Unpronounceable_Symbol · Post by **Unpronounceable_Symbol** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:14 pm

Me too. Now let's call "aesthetically pleasing" subjective. And before anyone goes running to the dictionary (.com), I mean I am aesthetically pleased by stuff that may not aesthetically please your mother, for example.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:18 pm

Heh, I think most people would be extremely aesthetically displeased by Captain Beefheart, but I don't think anyone has license to even suggest that what I get out of his music for myself is anything but pure aesthetic pleasure

Kuzutetsu · Post by **Kuzutetsu** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:21 pm

I like:

CRADLE OF FILTH, DIMMU BORGIR, SLAYER, SADISTIK EXEKUTION, ARKHON INFAUSTUS, IMPALED NAZARENE, BEHEMOTH, SATYRICON, WHITE ZOMBIE, ALICE COOPER, MARILYN MANSON, PRODIGY, KMFDM, DOOK, SUBLIME CADEVERIC DECOMPOSITION, MORBID ANGEL, NIFELHEIM, NAGLFAR, CANNIBAL CORPSE, HERESIARH, SUFFOCATION, MARDUK, GHOULOUNATICS, OBLIVEON, KATAKLYSM, CRYPTOPSY, FURIA, DARKTHRONE, EMPEROR, ATARI TEENAGE RIOT, AMBASSADOR 21, ALEC EMPIRE, PANTERA, THE DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN, CEPHALIC CARNAGE, IN FLAMES, SOULFLY, CHILDREN OF BODOM, NOIR DÉSIR, KILLSWITCH ENGAGE, THE HAUNTED, DARKEST HOUR, ANAL CUNT, MY DYING BRIDE, SKINNY PUPPY, VENOM, BENUMB, NASUM, BLOOD DUSTERS, THE MISFITS, THE MEATSHITS, THE EXPLOITED, MESHUGGAH, GOD FORBID, DWARVES, DYING FETUS, EXHUMED, OLD MAN'S CHILD, INCANTATION, DEATH, HATEBREED, SKINLESS, FEAR FACTORY, GWAR, GREEN JELLY, LORDS OF ACID, MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE, ABORTED, ANTHRAX, ANOREXIA NERVOSA, NUCLEAR ASSAULT, BAL-SAGOTH, BLINDED BY FAITH, OBSCURCIS ROMANCIA, ONTOS ON, KRISIUN, AT THE GATES, BATHORY, MACHINE HEAD, THE CROWN, TYPE O NEGATIVE, VOIVOD, W.A.S.P., SEX MACHINEGUNS, X-JAPAN, DIR EN GREY, XPLICIT NOIZE, DRILLER KILLER, TERROR SQUAD, SYMPHONY X, GAMMA RAY, KAMELOT, SINERGY, STRATOVARIUS, SIX FEET UNDER, SIEBENBURGEN, SEPULTURA, DARK TRANQUILLITY, RAMMSTEIN, OZZY OSBOURNE, IMMORTAL, JUDAS PRIEST, PHOBIA, IRON MAIDEN, KREATOR, MALEVOLENT CREATION, METALLICA, MORTICIAN, MOTÖRHEAD, MELECHESH, SHADOWS FALL, STRAPPING YOUND LAD, DEVIN TOWNSEND, MACHINE HEAD, VINTERSORG, Mr. BUNGLE, FUCK ON THE BEACH, FILTH, SHAI HULUD, NILE, AGORAPHOBIC NOSEBLEED, NIC ENDO

find out what's METAL !!!! \m/

\m/ !!!! In That

Swordfish23 · Post by **Swordfish23** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:25 am

Well i didnt read the rest of this but this page, but metal rocks, pretty much all i listen to. Too much to list, lots of Swedish stuff, and lots of the stuff listed it Kuz's list, he has a pretty good list

Farlo · Post by **Farlo** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:52 am

Swordfish23 wrote:Well i didnt read the rest of this but this page, but metal rocks, pretty much all i listen to. Too much to list, lots of Swedish stuff, and lots of the stuff listed it Kuz's list, he has a pretty good list

except CoF

Bote · Post by **Bote** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:59 am

Power and heavy for me. I can't listen to black or death cause it destroys my ears.

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:31 pm

Farlo wrote:
Swordfish23 wrote:Well i didnt read the rest of this but this page, but metal rocks, pretty much all i listen to. Too much to list, lots of Swedish stuff, and lots of the stuff listed it Kuz's list, he has a pretty good list
except CoF

Good call.

Don't be Dani Filth.