Flashy AMV's are overrated...

[ANTDrakko]

Some love pie, some don't.

Pie SUCKS!

But on a more serious note...

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't exactly see certain effects actually HARD to pull off. I mean, heck, anyone here could simply go to creativecow.net , check out a tutorial or two, and BAM!, produce an effects video that could look all kinds of purdy.

Problem is, and this is only my opinion, there is no real effort made to innovate or use the effect in a completely different way to make that video stand out if they just use some basic pre-defined effects.

I don't use effects in my videos because I haven't found the need for them or even found a really good opportunity to put one in. Have I toyed with After Effects? Yes, very much so, especially for rotoscoping several "lightsaber" effects.

Bottom Line: Use effects to ehance the video, no BE the video. If you find that maaaaaybe your effects are smothering what your actually trying to portray in the video, then you might want to re-evaluate your AMV...

Then again, most people DO enjoy shiny things....maybe thats what we should all do, put together a project using EVERY After Effect and Premiere filter possible. We'll call it the Seizure Project....

Its late, I'm sleepy, and babbling. Good night ^_^

~Seen

[Zarxrax]

Bottom Line: Use effects to ehance the video, no BE the video.
~Seen

I disagree :p

I personally think people should just edit however they want. Who cares if people use or don't use effects? People have different tastes, and its their video. Even if the effects are tacky, if thats what the creator wanted, then you can't really argue with it.

[Scintilla]

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't exactly see certain effects actually HARD to pull off. I mean, heck, anyone here could simply go to creativecow.net , check out a tutorial or two, and BAM!, produce an effects video that could look all kinds of purdy.

I don't think I've ever used any effects that I considered <i>hard</i>... but I definitely have experience with "effects" that were very, very <i>tedious</i> and time-consuming.

[Coffee 54]

The trouble I'm running into in the effects department is on the artistic rather then the technical end. I just watched three video's all with nearly perfect use of digital effects artisticly, one flashy, the other two more subdued. I know, technically how to do all of those effects, but placement is really giving some trouble.

[Wonka]

there were no filters which is really basic and kinda pathetic in the sense of imagination

[DrngdKreationz]

Problem is, and this is only my opinion, there is no real effort made to innovate or use the effect in a completely different way to make that video stand out if they just use some basic pre-defined effects.

wow..

I would seriously have to disagree with that. on numerous occasions I find ways to use Effects in different ways than they were originally intended. I do have to agree though that the "Majority" of people lack the skill to go farther than what other possibilities an Effect can produce in order to create something else. I do forget that most people just rely on filters to get the job done rather than putting some thought into what they do.


But as tryhill said it one day.

"I use effects because they spawn threads like this, and it's always fun to get people at each other's throats over something so utterly insignificant."

[AdAmisK]

I like the "Seizure Project" idea. You'd probalary see it FLY to the top (for a week at least)!!!
On a more serious note...
Beaujames - The AMV I was going to mention ( and everyones gonna wring my neck for this..) was none other than Euphoria. Now dont get me wrong, the AMV was very good. But I've seen others with less flashy-ness that deserved to be at the top more. I mean that I've seen a more ENJOYABLE amvs out there, which, in the end it boils down to. enjoyment.
Dont get wrong, euphoria was probalary a bitch to make! its just an example of how flashy amvs make it to the top easier... I started a flashy amv as an experiment to see how high it gets. (due in +- a month)...

[ANTDrakko]

I like the "Seizure Project" idea. You'd probalary see it FLY to the top (for a week at least)!!!

Its kinda funny, really....

You can cover up any lacking part of an AMV with a good use of effects, but you can't do that with ANY other aspect. Can't cover up a lack of story with.....good use of Action Sync? Can't cover up a lack of action sync with......Lyrical Sync?

(The above is not true for ALL AMVs or use of effects, but it seems to be true of many)

I don't know, maybe people actually WOULD like a Seizure project. As corny as it sounds, the fact remains that people love effects, no matter what is said.

As for the tryhil quote:

Last time I checked, this was a discussion forum. Whenever something interesting comes up, a discussion arises ^_^. Are the use of effects now-a-days interesting? Yer darn tootin' .

So what do yahs say about a Seizure Project? I'm thinking it'd need a better name

~Seen

[AdAmisK]

nah! "The Seizure Project" is a good name... the amv with every effect and transition under the sun. but we'd have to have a damn fast song, see if we can get someone to have an epileptic fit - and then see their mother on the morning news blaming her sons traumas on flashy amvs in this modern age. then they'd put some sort of restriction in place when making amvs. lol, I just gabbling on.
Anyone else interested?
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[Pyle]

All I'm going to say here is that you haven't done true effect work until you've tampered with overlays