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Post by Bote » Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:38 pm

gepetto wrote:Was that a shot at me? That's not my case at all.
It wasn't aimed at you, that's my view of things globally speaking. If you've discovered yourself in that post then that's your problem.
No need to crucify me because I offended the great allmighty Euphoria
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Post by DrngdKreationz » Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:47 pm

YOU MUST WORSHIP EUPHORIA or be CRUCIFIED!!!!



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Post by Zaphod_Beeblebrox » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:44 pm

i think the hype around it probably didn't help when i first watched it, being no. 1 in the .org's database by op scores is quite a title and i guess i expected a lot more from it.

I have nothing against effects vids (Shounen Bushido and Olin are both among my favourites), it's just that in Euphoria they weren't an integral part of the concept, they just helped koop with beat sync as far as i can tell and he went too far in my opinion.

And maybe you're right about the whole "I'll never learn this shit," thing, but to be honest, i don't care, i'd rather enjoy a laid back editing session where i get to do whatever the hell i want, rather than having to read through arduous pages of step-by-step instructions on how to do an effect i don't even like, much less want to use, and that probably wont add to the value of the vid in my eyes anyway, for me a vid should be about the concept or the sync, not the effects.

In my eyes that's where Koop went wrong with Euphoria, and i'm sure many other people have and will continue to, Euphoria is just a good example because eveyone knows what you're talking about.
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Post by Koopiskeva » Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:02 pm

my eyes.. they hurt :/
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Post by Sir_Lagsalot » Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:06 pm

I tend to be a fan of effect videos (*coughCloudConnectedcough*), But I actually had trouble sitting through Euphoria... While the video was very well made and I can understand why some love it, it just had no appeal to me. I hated the music, had not seen the anime, and the effects (while very well done) struck me as repetitive. Plus I was expecting more based on the video rating...

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Post by Maverick-Rubik » Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:16 pm

The biggest drawback of that video, is that it attempts to sync to everything, which it does flawlessly.

But imagine a song with a lot of things going on at once. You usually just concentrate on one part that seems to be the main part since it's too much to take in at once. This is where Euphoria was disappointing for some people. It had just as many things going on as in the song, making it seem confusing after not watching it many times and remembering what happens in it. Since instead of one part becoming the main section of the video like it would with music; every part of the song became just as important as the other (and our minds usually filter out music to the most significant part of it when we concentrate on it). And Euphoria made it hard to concentrate on just one thing at once. And this confusion often leads to not liking it upon first reaction.

I find this to be true since the more I watched it, the more I liked it. And the first time I watched it, I didn't like it and told koop "I thought it was okay" when he asked me what I thought of it in the AIM chat. :wink:

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Post by Wong » Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:17 pm

heh...i was not a member when i DL'd Euphoria, so did not know about all these ratings...but even now, i still like euphoria. Its not #1 on my list, but i did like the vid...i thought the song was fitting, and the effects were amazing.
While you may say they are repetative, useing those same effects in those few areas of the video was a lot better then having a whole new effect every 3 seconds because then your eyes kind of ajdust, your brain knows its there, and it lets you focus on the vid...not the effects. Useing diff effects throughout a vid is why a lot of people say effect vids are lame...because they are all effects. I am sure Koop did not make this vid to be an effect vid, but more likely used those few "repetative" effects to help his vid...not overpower it.

either way, i like effect vids...but not uber flashy ong look at all the effects i can do in a 4 minute period type video.

And if its a flash vid..it better be a DAMN good flashy vid otherwise i hate it.

but these are just my opinions.
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Post by Maverick-Rubik » Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:20 pm

Wong wrote:While you may say they are repetative, useing those same effects in those few areas of the video was a lot better then having a whole new effect every 3 seconds because then your eyes kind of ajdust, your brain knows its there, and it lets you focus on the vid...not the effects. Useing diff effects throughout a vid is why a lot of people say effect vids are lame...because they are all effects.
Good thing I didn't say they were repetitive then! :o

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Post by Sir_Lagsalot » Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:56 pm

Wong wrote: While you may say they are repetative, useing those same effects in those few areas of the video was a lot better then having a whole new effect every 3 seconds because then your eyes kind of ajdust, your brain knows its there, and it lets you focus on the vid...not the effects.
There's nothing wrong with changing effects every three seconds, its simply a matter of if there is a rational for it. If the effects are changing in responce to the music or based on some theme/pattern, then changing the effects like that should enhance the video. If the effects are just changed randomly, then thats just as bad as using random clips. Likewise, using the same effect too long or reusing the same effect can be as bad as letting a clip run too long or reusing clips. Again, if you are going to do that, you need a reason, and I didn't really see one in Euphoria.

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Post by godix » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:57 pm

Koopiskeva wrote:my eyes.. they hurt :/
I still luv Euphoria. Although I think that if every video was a drama story things would quickly get old and I have the horrible taste to like ORIGINAL effect vids too so that should tell you what my freakish opinion is worth.
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