stolen amv footage!!

[LightningCountX]

When I was uber noobie I used other amv creators footage, but only after being granted permission to use it. I remember when I used to ask you alot for that Ariga You even sent me some small dbz huffyuv's on 56k

Usually when I asked people they were cool with the idea of borrowing their footage. If people would just ask

... but you stole the footage, ALL of the footage from an anime.

Not exactly, you cant really consider it stealing if you bought the dvd's/cd's in the first place because technically your promoting them.(If its a good video)

It would be stealing if he went into the Funimation building, beat up the dvd engineers, and ran out with a few copies of YYH

Or, a less violent way of Bit Torrent

[Bulghod]

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It would be stealing if he went into the Funimation building, beat up the dvd engineers, and ran out with a few copies of YYH

Or, a less violent way of Bit Torrent

hey, how do you think i get my footage? I'll say this much, Manga entertainment and Geneon both have hits out on me.

But as far as the footage goes, you really can't do much about it aside from complain to the person, or possibly get such person booted off the org, but doubt that will happen. I just can't understand why they took the footage without A) asking or B) renting the damn anime.

[quadir]

Not exactly, you cant really consider it stealing if you bought the dvd's/cd's in the first place because technically your promoting them.

While I may not have a law degree, almost all anime is released with a copyright stating "All Rights Reserved."

What this means, is that to use part, distribute given media in any way not defined under your purchasing agreement (which usually states something about how many people you can show this to, where, and what kind of redistribution rights), without their explicit permission is illigal wherever they hold a copyright, which is any country part of an international copyright treaty.

By making an amv, you are redistributing their anime in part, which is illigal. This is also true of your music. The ANBUdom Legal FAQ points you to the right laws that affect both fansubbing and amv creation. You'll notice they mention a kind of `dispute' right now in courts, but this has not been settled, so for now it's still illigal. The owner of the copyright decides where, how and when something will be reproducted in whole or in part.

What I'd really like to start seeing though, is anime being distributed under a Creative Commons sampling license, like the Wired CD did for music.

For that matter, has anyone done any AMV's to tracks on the wired CD? You'd have to use a track with sampling+ or non-commercial sampling license, because generally AMV's don't just use part of a song.

If we could get some animation with even a basic sampling license (meaning you cannot distribute the anime in full, just little bits, like in an AMV), then you could have a completely legal AMV.

While technically correct, original music put to original animation In My Opinion is not the whole cake, or the key accomplishment in this area.

[trythil]

Not exactly, you cant really consider it stealing if you bought the dvd's/cd's in the first place because technically your promoting them.(If its a good video)

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#wci

Note the text "derivative works". In italicized bold text.

Don't get me started on the Fair Use clauses, because they just aren't applicable here.

For that matter, has anyone done any AMV's to tracks on the wired CD?

I've got a couple ideas ;)

[trythil]

Not exactly, you cant really consider it stealing if you bought the dvd's/cd's in the first place because technically your promoting them.(If its a good video)

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#wci

Note the text "derivative works". In italicized bold text.

Don't get me started on the Fair Use clauses, because they just aren't applicable here.

Of course, this applies only to works originating in the United States, as far as I know. I think provisions exist in the 1979 Paris Act of the Berne Convention to extend copyright protection internationally but I can't remember or locate those sections at the moment.

However, take into consideration:

(1) a lot of work on this site is derived from work under U.S. copyright law
(2) many countries have similar, if not stricter, copyrights
(3) a great many countries are members of the Berne Union; many more are bound by the TRIPs agreement by their inclusion in the World Trade Organization

[quadir]

again, the [MOD42: Link to site with downloadable anime removed.] Legal FAQ is really the place to look for specific laws which include those affecting Japan material.

[Sephiroth]

I purpusfully used blood the last vampire PS2 footage so that people could actualy have acess to some footage of it. Why because id rahter people have acess to it and use it if they have a good use for it. Then not have it.

And even if i beleaved in the general norm that most people seem to hold with footage. It's still not that easy. Why because i'm learning animation, My Intermediate animation teacher worked on A few disney films. Absolute destiny made a video using the little mermaid which he showed at AWA. My teacher worked on the littler mermain. So given that i know somone that actually made the source footage should i go after AD and yell at him for using a large group of peoples footage because it's something my teacher worked on. Is that fair to do?

No matter what we end up useing other peoples work. It is not so easy to just condem everyone. Footage like AMVs is made by people, thus it's other peoples work. If you are saying that's it's wrong to use footage from another persons AMV then you are also saying that it's wrong to use ripped footage in the first place.

Even if you go by stuff that was made by groups of people as being ok. Then lets go at solo works like solo editing which the majority of AMVs are done with. A few people have used Rejected that was made by one person, it's one persons edit, ones one persons audio.

Blatantly taking another persons video and calling it your own is a different story since that goes for taking credit for somones work. Yes this does leave some difficult questions about taking footage from a video. Since logically we should credit where we got the source from. Look at it this way if somone uses a scene are we require to tell everyone if we ripped it off dvd, recorded it off of TV or just downloaded it. No we are not. All that's required is that we list the origenal source.

The tv networks are run by people, DVD's are made by people that release the series/movie. Do we credit these people when we make a video? With all of these people who do not get credited for helping you get the footage should you be credited with helping somone get a source then?

The point of all of this is that every AMV we do is because of many people who work on this stuff. Should we not also credit them if you demand that we credit the origenal editor? Or go the other rought and credit them along with the editor? The problem is not black and white, but very gray.

my friends have used clips from my AMVs cause they couldn't find them anywhere else

[bum]

I allways make sure to put video and audio credits at the end of my vids (well, mabey not when i started out). Its just a sign of respect for the artists who's work you used to create your own.

Now, I dont see anything wrong with stealing peoples scenes. But when edits are stolen (for example, someone copying part of the chorus scenes in euphoria) then that is soemthing to be pissed of about.

[EXODO]

I think that it would be considerated stealing an anime if you distribute the anime and have some sort of income (selling it). But as long as you dont have that income (non-profit) then the laws changes (or dont apply (i dont know)). And giving respective credit to the person that a) wrote the song and b) created the anime is more than enough.

[supersayian313]

... but you stole the footage, ALL of the footage from an anime.

Not exactly, you cant really consider it stealing if you bought the dvd's/cd's in the first place because technically your promoting them.(If its a good video)

thats what i was going to say. i have like 150 anime dvds so i think i should be able to use the footage. i asked random resoultion to change his vid description cuz he sounds abit cocky about how great his video skills are. i hope he at least asks the next person