Next revolution in amv creation

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Post by Katsumi_AMVs » Sun Nov 14, 2004 10:23 am

No revolution at all , just different editing styles ....
Nothing usefull here .

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Post by Voices_Of_Ryan » Sun Nov 14, 2004 10:34 am

Katsumi_AMVs wrote:No revolution at all , just different editing styles ....
*Claps*
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Post by Fungie½ » Sun Nov 14, 2004 10:51 am

I have to agree with Katsumi here. There really is no revolution. Sure, there will be bigger and better things to come, I'm sure, but until then, so what? We should all just keep doing our own thing, because if we end up all doing the exact same thing at the "revolution", AMV's will suck. And they will suck hard. Let's not have it come to that, okay? ^_^

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Post by post-it » Sun Nov 14, 2004 11:01 am

Voices_Of_Ryan wrote:
Katsumi_AMVs wrote:No revolution at all , just different editing styles ....
*Claps*
X2 8-)

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Post by godix » Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:05 pm

I've noticed that over the last 6 months or so the videos I've really enjoyed are ones where the creator used the footage to tell their own story instead of focusing on an element of the animes story. None of them have become majorly popular like Euphoria but I have started seeing more videos where the creator basically says "Forget the anime, this video is about..."

This won't reach the point to qualify for revolution though. Not even Euphoria was a revolution. The only things that hit big enough to even qualify as a revolution were when Naruto started or when Linkin Park (or however you spell it) put out their first album. Imagine, there used to be a day when no one knew what LinkinBallZ meant...
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Post by rubyeye » Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:28 pm

I'm speaking "successful" as in popularly accepted.
I hate that definition of "success".
The next revolution will occur when everyone begins making their videos entirely in After Effects and 3d applications!
It's been done - MADs - and there have already been a few AMVs done entirely in AE as well.

The real revolution in AMVs, that I see, are these Massive-Multi-Editor Projects. Before this site came along people were just making amvs on an individual basis. But now, like games, and thanks to websites like this, whole communities and groups of people are collaborating on huge conceptual pieces. Who would have ever thought that would happen with this "hobby".

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Post by Otohiko » Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:30 pm

I don't think there's revolutions per se, but there's benchmarks in advancement.

Yep, Multi-Editor projects are still in their infancy, and I think there's huge potential in them which will get realized in the next little while.

In terms of technique/technology - there's a lot of things that can still be done in original ways. Original animation AMV's are barely starting to take some first steps, and it'll be a while before we see an original AMV with production qualities to rival the industry; while I'm still waiting for the first multi-audio-track AMV. :roll:
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Post by Pyle » Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:54 pm

This topic was so inspiring until I read bum's post :(

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Post by bum » Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:34 pm

Their are people who are called game theorists. They dont play computer/video games all that much (well, not as mucha s the average gamer). What they do is two fold. First they make and try to explain alot of theories around games. About why we enjoy them, what makes them so appealing, what keeps us hokked onto them. Then these guys make arguments on why we actualy need games theory.

What they do is complicate gaming culture in meaningless ways. Sure its fun, and most gamers like talking about a bit of the theory behind it all. But these game theorists take it too far. They overcomplicate things to the point where people are confused about whats actualy a good game and what they enjoy.

Do amv'ers want to be like game theorists? Do we realy need to analize why we enjoy amv's? Do we realy want an in depth analysis about the past, present and futer of amv's? Mabey we do. But mabey we just have to take things a little slower and stop using words like evolution, which means nothing but a small transition of your living the present.

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Post by OtakuMegane » Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:49 pm

I can say now, if there will be an overall "revolution", it will likely not appear in force for a couple more years. After studying the history of AMVs, and looking at various AMVs from a number of years back, I see two points that could be considered actual revolutions. The wide use of digital video editing(instead of 2 VCR method), and the use of After Effects(and other digital special effects). Revolutions in AMVs seem to come from technology and technique changes, rather than the content itself, as it happens with other art forms. rubyeye is probably right, and multi-editor and massive-multi-editor projects will be the next one.

What might be mistaken for revolution is a time when the bar of quality is raised higher very quickly. The only occurence of this I can think of is Kevin Caldwell(bar of quality went up for sure) and maybe Euphoria. However, while Euphoria is quite an accomplishment, I don't think it really affected things as widely as many people think.

Now, on a smaller scale there are revolutions occuring from time to time, as well as "evolutions". Some occur when a new anime or music group shows up that is unique or varied...or sometimes just really damn popular. You get things like Linkinball Z and the growing number of Naruto videos. Prior was a smaller boom of Sailor Moon ones and a growth of Berserk videos the last couple years. One that may just be my imagination is an awful lot of scenes from Kobomo no Omocha that I've come across as of late...?

And of course, there are times when new types of videos appear. Action, romance, comedy, dance have existed as long as MTV and been around since AMVs started. Character profiles have been here pretty much since the beginning as well I think. Original animation has appeared once in a while over the years, but has more potential now I believe as we get more tools that make the process simpler. The occasional attempt to make the worst AMV ever...which gets scary sometimes. Hentai ANVs. And a new category which I'm not quite sure how to describe, but is starting to proliferate, albeit slowly. Other than annoying but funny. Anyone watching the end of the night block at AWA this year knows what I'm talking about.

Ok, did any of that make sense? :roll:
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