ATI Portable Wonder

LovEnPeaCE · Post by **LovEnPeaCE** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:16 pm

Ok, in the new beta guides for all things audio/video, it says that the new all in wonder radeon video/capture cards don't work with virtualdub, but will the ati portable wonder usb 2.0 work with virtualdub?

post-it · Post by **post-it** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:04 pm

- the problem that is noted for ATI capture cards are, "it has its own built-in
codec" which Virtualdub can not access durring a capture - because the compression
settings are not controllable from any Virtualdub settings!

. ATI has its own CODEC for Capturing Video. - That's the issue.

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:48 pm

More like it has it's own application for capturing... You can export using a variety of codecs using the ATI software.

post-it · Post by **post-it** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:15 pm

yeah, but accessing the Video directly would be best - if it were possible.
. With the exception of the ATI 4 & 8 meg capture cards, I can't think of
one that is not "inhibited" by a hard-wired codec.

are there "any" capture cards available that still "capture to the hard drive dirrectly" ?

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:23 pm

post-it wrote:yeah, but accessing the Video directly would be best - if it were possible.
. With the exception of the ATI 4 & 8 meg capture cards, I can't think of
one that is not "inhibited" by a hard-wired codec.

are there "any" capture cards available that still "capture to the hard drive dirrectly" ?

Probably not, because it's highly inefficient. It's much better to capture to a lossless compressed form that can then be converted to any form you choose.

I, for one, don't want huge raw avi files lying around because I happen to be too lazy to convert from whatever format the capture is in using the tools that came with the capture device.

Wait a tick.....

post-it · Post by **post-it** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:29 pm

Kalium wrote:
post-it wrote:...are there "any" capture cards available that still "capture to the hard drive dirrectly" ?
Probably not, because it's highly inefficient. It's much better to capture to a lossless compressed form that can then be converted to any form you choose.

and, which lossless compressed for does ATI use ????

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:16 am

You can use HuffYUV

Knowname · Post by **Knowname** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:21 pm

Virtual Dub is a program that does not support <b>all-in-wonder</b> capture cards due to them using the ATI Media Encoder 2 (I beleive it's called o.0) chip. ATI's TV Wonder line did not use ATI's custom chip (ME2 or whatever) for whatever reason so it IS supported. I beleive the E-Home Wonder does use ATI's custom chip, however.
Huffyuv, Divx, etc. are codecs that don't need to have support from hardware, they just need support from software.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:42 pm

Ofcourse there is not much point in encoding to a lossless format from the hardwares internal format. So long as the hardwares format is supported by the applications in which you intend to use it in.