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Post by Kajino Rei » Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:15 pm

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Post by bobbarker31 » Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:55 am

The two evangelion director's cut DVD's have extensive interviews with the WETA design team (the same guys who did the Lord of the Rings films). Some of the designs were garbage and other designs didn't look that bad really, but the one thing that they emphasised was that it was all very early in the game for anything to be more than preliminary.

Honestly I do not see how they can do the series justice. More power to them if they are able to, but I just don't see it. Even if the designs and everything is good, it will have to awkwardly span several movies. Of course they had the same doubts with their work on Lord of the Rings before it premiered.

If you want to get excited about something with Evangelion, check out the Platinum editions on DVD. The series has never looked or sounded better. There was a lot of TLC that went into their production and it really shows. No matter what happens with a live action production they will never be able to take the greatness of the original animated series away.
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Post by Scintilla » Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:07 am

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Is it just me, or were they basing the grievances in that petition on the <i>concept art</i> that was floating around a year ago?

Mind you, I said CONCEPT ART. As Barker said, nothing more than preliminary.

Personally, I'd tell them to come back when GAINAX, ADV, and Weta actually have, you know, a <i>script</i> and a <i>director</i> to work with, and then maybe they'll have something <i>real</i> to complain about. :?


I love Evangelion, but I'm getting sick of these loud and angry complaints about a movie that is FAR too early in its production schedule to be complained about yet.

For all we know, it could turn out good (I'm hoping).
And as someone already pointed out, it'll at least give us the chance to introduce more people to teh [sic] greatness that is the series.
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Post by TaranT » Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:15 am

Whoever is planning this movie is going against bad history. Live action giant-robot battle-suit movies have been tried before. The films were Robot Jox and Robot Wars. There was a third one called Crash and Burn with a title that described the movie in more ways than one.

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Post by dokool » Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:07 am

Scintilla wrote:...

Is it just me, or were they basing the grievances in that petition on the <i>concept art</i> that was floating around a year ago?

Mind you, I said CONCEPT ART. As Barker said, nothing more than preliminary.

Personally, I'd tell them to come back when GAINAX, ADV, and Weta actually have, you know, a <i>script</i> and a <i>director</i> to work with, and then maybe they'll have something <i>real</i> to complain about. :?


I love Evangelion, but I'm getting sick of these loud and angry complaints about a movie that is FAR too early in its production schedule to be complained about yet.
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As far as I know there have been 4 major anime-to-live-action film conversions: GTO, Casshern, Cutie Honey, and Devilman.

None of those four had the benefit of an American script-writer, director, or producer who has the ability to call 'shenanigans' on a bad story or plot issues. Having seen Godzilla: Final Wars, I'm convinced that this is something that Japanese production companies lack.

That said, because Gainax is involved and because Weta Workshop is involved, I have faith. Of those early production drawings, the only things I wasn't impressed with were the costumes, but everything else looks incredible.

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Post by Undertow » Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:19 am

dokool wrote:As far as I know there have been 4 major anime-to-live-action film conversions: GTO, Casshern, Cutie Honey, and Devilman.
Don't forget, there were also two guyver movies that were horrible to watch, it was like Power Rangers with a bit of gore flying around.

Well, it does look good, but i fear with great fears that this in no way is going to come close to the anime, and please, asuka looks like hell.
Well, we still have that Live Action Transformers movie coming up, maybe that might be something (but i doubt it)

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Post by Brsrk » Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:31 pm

I've lost count how many times this has been discussed, but this is the first online petition for it. Online petitions mean absolutely nothing.

As for the movie itself, a friend and I have some expectations for it that WETA can definetaly meet. It just depends on the script and director. If they mess this up, there's gonna be lots of hate mail.
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Post by ifihadaninja » Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:36 pm

I for one hopw its good.

But my hopes may be lost if they actually do get Hillary Duff to play Asuk.....er...."Kate Rose". Has this been confirmed? Because i know it was one of their choices.

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Post by TaranT » Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:41 pm

dokool wrote:...
None of those four had the benefit of an American script-writer, director, or producer who has the ability to call 'shenanigans' on a bad story or plot issues. Having seen Godzilla: Final Wars, I'm convinced that this is something that Japanese production companies lack.
After last summer's "Thunderbirds", I don't think it's just the Japanese companies. :wink:

BTW, this would not be ADV's first release of a live action giant robot film. There is Toho's Gunhed:
Gunhed is essentially live-action anime, an ambitious recreation of the popular mecha sub-genre seen in the likes of Robotech, Gundam and Appleseed. As a 1989 production from the makers of the Godzilla movies, it's better than one might expect and virtually free of CGI. ...Though far from perfect, it's still an impressive technical achievement to see giant mecha that are not computer generated battling it out in a setting taken right out of Aliens.
Judging from the production credits, "Gunhed" was a joint Japanese-American project.

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Post by dokool » Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:50 pm

TaranT wrote:
dokool wrote:...
None of those four had the benefit of an American script-writer, director, or producer who has the ability to call 'shenanigans' on a bad story or plot issues. Having seen Godzilla: Final Wars, I'm convinced that this is something that Japanese production companies lack.
After last summer's "Thunderbirds", I don't think it's just the Japanese companies. :wink:
This is true. My point remains, however, that more American films have "logical" plots/writing/endings than Japanese films.
TaranT wrote: BTW, this would not be ADV's first release of a live action giant robot film. There is Toho's Gunhed:
Gunhed is essentially live-action anime, an ambitious recreation of the popular mecha sub-genre seen in the likes of Robotech, Gundam and Appleseed. As a 1989 production from the makers of the Godzilla movies, it's better than one might expect and virtually free of CGI. ...Though far from perfect, it's still an impressive technical achievement to see giant mecha that are not computer generated battling it out in a setting taken right out of Aliens.
Judging from the production credits, "Gunhed" was a joint Japanese-American project.
Well, that sounds promising, no? And that was back in '89...

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