SAVE EVANGELION!!!!!1

AmazonMandy · Post by **AmazonMandy** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:38 pm

RedFusionX wrote:The only thing I am going to say about this whole thing is Listen to Belldandy

Noone's forcing you to read this or post, alot of people seem to be enjoying thinking about it, so if you don't like it, dont stop in.

I am personally skeptical, but again, seeing live action Eva units could rock. I would really just wait and see what they do before trying to attack the studio....maybe there will be SOMETHING good there, and if not, maybe it will encourage people to watch the original anime out of curiosity...

bobbarker31 · Post by **bobbarker31** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:46 pm

Anything that gets more people to look at the original Evangelion animation (or anime in general) is not a bad thing...

The water is warm, lets have more fans join us. It just might cause the outrageous costs of some of the DVDs to drop too.

As for endings that are not clear cut.....GOOD!!!

We need more endings like that. There is nothing wrong with something that makes you think and has you go back over it a couple of times.

There will always be those who do not understand and be frustrated with a confusing storyline/ending. I am reminded of the story of the premier of 2001 A Space Odessey in Hollywood. Rock Hudson walked out of the film screaming "Will someone tell me what the hell this thing is about?" But for most of the world, the film became a classic that is still discussed today. Anime is one of the few places I have seen that is producing products like that!!

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:36 am

dokool wrote:...
Well, that sounds promising, no? And that was back in '89...

Not really. I've seen "Gunhed" and that review that I linked to had it right: "...a convoluted plot made worse by Frankenstein-like editing that throws everything together in a patchwork fashion." It was almost incomprehensible. The mecha wasn't too bad...I think...most of the film was so dark it was hard to tell what was going on.

ryuu_hime13 wrote:That's all fine and dandy...but wouldn't a "logical" plot/writing/ending kind of ruin the twistedness that is Eva?

If the movie is to have any kind of success at all, all that twistedness will have to be cut out. They'll have 90 minutes, 110 tops. Find a simple plot, limit it to 2-4 main characters, and stick to it. They're not going to draw non-anime types with a confusing mess of a story (solution: get Spielberg, give him whatever he asks).

I'm curious about which characters will get to play the male-female pair which is a requirement for a popular action film. Could be either dark (Neo-Trinity) or upbeat (Han-Leia). I can't see Shinji in on this unless they rewrite his character completely. Maybe Misato and her "boyfriend", but they're not really at the center of the EVA story.

Unfortunately, if it's a pair of the teenagers - e.g. Shinji & Asuka - there's a big risk of the whole project turning into a kids movie like "Thunderbirds" or "Hackers".

Eryops · Post by **Eryops** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:49 pm

TaranT wrote: I'm curious about which characters will get to play the male-female pair which is a requirement for a popular action film. Could be either dark (Neo-Trinity) or upbeat (Han-Leia). I can't see Shinji in on this unless they rewrite his character completely. Maybe Misato and her "boyfriend", but they're not really at the center of the EVA story. Unfortunately, if it's a pair of the teenagers - e.g. Shinji & Asuka - there's a big risk of the whole project turning into a kids movie like "Thunderbirds" or "Hackers".

I too think that Shinji and Asuka will be the leading pair; unless they try to increase the movie's appeal in the Bible belt by having a Shinji and Rei couple.

As for the movie, it almost certainly won't have a complicated plot twist in the end, since it seems to be an action flick and they typically have fairly linear plots.

What I'm curious about is whether the film will retain any elements of Judaeo-Christian symbolism, since it may be considered too controversial for releasing in the US. As with everything else about this movie though, time will tell.

PS: I can understand the Eva fans' apprehension about this film, since a really bad movie will probably cause people to avoid watching the anime. However, a decent movie though will greatly increase the popularity of the anime.

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:51 pm

ryuu_hime13 wrote:
dokool wrote:This is true. My point remains, however, that more American films have "logical" plots/writing/endings than Japanese films.
That's all fine and dandy...but wouldn't a "logical" plot/writing/ending kind of ruin the twistedness that is Eva?

But see, American movies <i>can</i> work with twistedness. Look at Memento, or Fight Club.

DrngdKreationz · Post by **DrngdKreationz** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:09 pm

FIGHT CLUB PWNZORZ !!!

sorry thats one of my fave movies..

(on topic)
I'm pretty sure regardless of how bad it is the first weekend it comes out (whenever the hell that is) its going to generate pretty good revenue just out of fan support.

badmartialarts · Post by **badmartialarts** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:23 pm

DrngdKreationz wrote:FIGHT CLUB PWNZORZ !!!

sorry thats one of my fave movies..

(on topic)
I'm pretty sure regardless of how bad it is the first weekend it comes out (whenever the hell that is) its going to generate pretty good revenue just out of fan support.

Actually, what I think will happen is this.

Teh plot wrote: EVA FAN #1: OMG EVA LIVE ACTION MOVIE is gonna blow so hard. I'm going to spend 8.50 on teh movie ticket and another 6.00 on concession to sit there and heckle it!

EVA FAN #2: YEAH GOOD PLAN MAN!

*after movie*

EVA FAN #1: MAN THAT BLEW!

EVA FAN #2: Yeah, we won't be watching that again!

*next day*

NEWSCASTER: And the Evangelion movie brought in an amazing first-day revenue, likely spurring a new trend of anime to movie ripoffs!

EVA FANS: NO! WHAT HAVE WE DONE!

MOVIE EXECS: Got you suckers.

Put you money where your mouth is (or rather keep your money), and don't waste time on some online petition.

AmazonMandy · Post by **AmazonMandy** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:19 pm

Sorry bob...coudn't help myself XD

http://www.evamonkey.com/liveaction_gollum.mp3

bobbarker31 · Post by **bobbarker31** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:45 pm

AmazonMandy wrote:Sorry bob...coudn't help myself XD

http://www.evamonkey.com/liveaction_gollum.mp3

Quite ok Amazon

I might have been a little more reassured with WETA if their studio chief could pronounce "Evangelion" correctly. He kept calling it "gel" as in "hair gel"..

I thought WETA was nothing short of brilliant in what they did for the Lord of the Rings, but if you look at the behind the scenes, they TRIED to introduce some radically different story changes into the three movies. Arwen was supposed to fight at the battle of Helm's Deep. Aragorn was to have a face to face confrontation with a physical Sauron at the Black Gate. A lot of the changes were "hollywood cool" breaking through much of the original story line. Luckily few of them happened (but it was not for wanting to do them).

I understand and recognize the need for changes to streamline and make things fit in a movie. I am not against that. I just wonder if WETA will be able to make the right decisions with the changes. As Gollum says..."THEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED

"

I think this whole thing is a joint venture with Gainax, ADV, and WETA. As long as Gainax keeps tight the rein of one of their hottest properties, I'll feel a little bit better.

Eryops · Post by **Eryops** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:12 am

Perhaps they could base the script for the movie on some of the ideas discussed here:
http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~fre/extras.html

BTW, the argument between the purist and the WETA fanboy personalities of Gollum is hilarious!