Cowboy Bebop Confrontation (LOOK HERE!!!)

hanyou21 · Post by **hanyou21** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:07 am

Yea he was cool, but he still was a butthole...I'm glad Spike put a round through him, put him out of his misery.

Still, one of the best anime villians I've come across so far - I will definitely give you that.

XxVashTheStampedexX · Post by **XxVashTheStampedexX** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:42 pm

I wonder what would have happened if Julia didn't die.

hanyou21 · Post by **hanyou21** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:45 am

Vicious would probably still be alive, Spike and Julia probably would've run off to someplace like Venus or Europa, and the Bebop would still be down one helluva bounty hunter. Still, sadly, she needs to die for the series to have meaning and finality - it sucks, but its necessary.

initial d freak · Post by **initial d freak** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:26 am

in the movie,spike dies

hanyou21 · Post by **hanyou21** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:08 am

initial d freak wrote:in the movie,spike dies

No he doesn't baka - have you even seen the movie?

spike bomb 11 · Post by **spike bomb 11** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:11 pm

What the hell Are you smoking? spike doesn't die in the movie! god! he dies in EP 26 while fighting vicious! (Freaking Idiot! gosh!) mabe you should try watching it before you talk about it.

hanyou21 · Post by **hanyou21** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:29 am

spike bomb 11 wrote:What the hell Are you smoking? spike doesn't die in the movie! god! he dies in EP 26 while fighting vicious! (Freaking Idiot! gosh!) mabe you should try watching it before you talk about it.

Good someone else watched the movie - sheeze...it doesn't take much IQ to watch the movie and see that he lives...though he does cut it close a time or two.

bobbarker31 · Post by **bobbarker31** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:54 pm

The Real Folk Blues Parts I and II are my favorite. Not to say that I did not enjoy Ballads too. In Real Folk, not only do we get the final confrontation with Vicious, the reunion with Julia, the assault on the Red Dragon building, but the very end approached something almost unique at the end. How can you not smile and yet still get a bit teary eyed at Spike smiling, going bang to the many Red Dragon soldiers, then Kanno's beautiful "Blue" starts rolling with Spike on the ground? The seeds were all sown in the earlier episodes, here is where it comes back to reap.

Ballads is cool too. Great action sequence.... The flashbacks were done well. We learn that Spike came between his best friend, Vicious, and his girlfriend, Julia.

Maybe Vicious was not such a nutter before that happened. He probably had a normal name like Steve or something before that level of betrayl from the two people closest to him.

hanyou21 · Post by **hanyou21** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:36 am

bobbarker31 wrote:The Real Folk Blues Parts I and II are my favorite. Not to say that I did not enjoy Ballads too. In Real Folk, not only do we get the final confrontation with Vicious, the reunion with Julia, the assault on the Red Dragon building, but the very end approached something almost unique at the end. How can you not smile and yet still get a bit teary eyed at Spike smiling, going bang to the many Red Dragon soldiers, then Kanno's beautiful "Blue" starts rolling with Spike on the ground? The seeds were all sown in the earlier episodes, here is where it comes back to reap.

Ballads is cool too. Great action sequence.... The flashbacks were done well. We learn that Spike came between his best friend, Vicious, and his girlfriend, Julia. Maybe Vicious was not such a nutter before that happened. He probably had a normal name like Steve or something before that level of betrayl from the two people closest to him.

Exactly - well said.

Spikebomb00 · Post by **Spikebomb00** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:13 pm

hanyou21 wrote:Vicious would probably still be alive, Spike and Julia probably would've run off to someplace like Venus or Europa, and the Bebop would still be down one helluva bounty hunter. Still, sadly, she needs to die for the series to have meaning and finality - it sucks, but its necessary.

Nah, I'm sure that even Julia had lived she would have died later. Spike and Julia weren't stupid, they knew that in order for them to truly live they had to escape the clutches of the syndicate for good, which means killing Vicious. They didn't say it exactly but in their conversation just before Julia dies they're talking about Julia leaving and she says she's not going anywhere. I believe that they were talking about assassinating Vicious too, not just Julia fleeing from the upcoming battle. And even if she were to leave that battle unscathed she definately would have died in the final confrontation. If you'll remember once they exited Annie's store onto the roof, there was a man there and Julia had to fire several shots before the man went down. Point in case, she has horrible aim. I love the girl, but man, she needed some target practice or something, it looked like it was her first time to fire her gun.