Shinseiki (Neon Genesis) Evangelion

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Post by bobbarker31 » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:33 am

Enigma_the_vampire wrote:Hello. My friend gave me the entire series of Evangelion on vhs a few years ago and I have this question. What was the deal with the thirteenth episode? all they did was talk and mess with Shinji's mind. I then watched the alternate ending and it made more sense...could anyone explain why?
I think you have the wrong episode. Episode 13 (Lilliputian Hitcher) was the episode where the microscopic angel infiltrated the Magi computer system. There was not a lot of internal dialogue for that episode. In fact, Shinji, Asuka, and Rei were naked in their entry plugs floating in a lake for the balance of the episode.

Are you talking about the 12th Angel, Leliel, the sphere that was a sea of Dirac that consumed Eva 1 for hours until it broke free?
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Post by rucka » Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:07 am

Yap, that episode with the 12th Angel sure was a bit strange, but I liked the scene when Eva broke free. Cooool...
Have u seen Rebirth of Evangelion? I think the animation was awesome...
:P
And one more thing: can someone explain why are there so many still frames in Death and Rebirth? :?:

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Post by bobbarker31 » Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:32 am

rucka wrote: And one more thing: can someone explain why are there so many still frames in Death and Rebirth? :?:
Cause they blew the budget half way through the series. Evangelion went WAY overbudget and stills were used to a great degree later on to help save money.
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Post by rucka » Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:38 am

Oh... Thx 4 such a fast reply...
Have u ever wondered why Eva became so popular? And, by the way, what happened with Anno? Have u heard about him lately?
Some say he got over the depression and lives further now. I believe that, but one thing still isn't clear to me: is there realy going to be a Live Action Evangelion??? :?: :!:
It seams to me that it's another "fan story"...

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Post by bobbarker31 » Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:05 pm

rucka wrote:Oh... Thx 4 such a fast reply...
Have u ever wondered why Eva became so popular? And, by the way, what happened with Anno? Have u heard about him lately?
Some say he got over the depression and lives further now. I believe that, but one thing still isn't clear to me: is there realy going to be a Live Action Evangelion??? :?: :!:
It seams to me that it's another "fan story"...
Anno just finished directing the live action "Cutie Honey" movie and is the chief director of the OVA this past year. He is also a supervising editor on the Gunbuster 2 OVA's that are coming out.

Anno's main bout with depression occured in the early 1990's between the series "Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water" and "Evangelion", but he has been working steadily since then.

A live action Evangelion is currently in preproduction. Designs have been commishoned by Weta Digital, the same effects house that did all the effects for the Lord of the Rings movies.

And Eva is popular because it is good. :wink:
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Post by rucka » Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:58 pm

Oh my God!!!!! Or should I say "Oh my Lilith!"!!!!!
It realy is true!!!! A live action EVANGELION movie!!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!
:!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
Thanx Bobbarker, u truly r helping me... :lol:
Do you think this live action movie is coming to Europe? I live in Latvia
u know, and Latvian television has NEVER EVER showed even a single Eva episode. Not even one Eva screenshot on TV... It's so painfull to live in a country where the only Anime people know about is Yu-Gi-Oh... :x
Now when this movie's coming,
I'm sure someone will try to show Eva on TV. People will know about Eva.
It's an Eva-Revolution 4 Latvia. :D

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Post by bobbarker31 » Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:21 pm

rucka wrote:Oh my God!!!!! Or should I say "Oh my Lilith!"!!!!!
It realy is true!!!! A live action EVANGELION movie!!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!
:!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
Thanx Bobbarker, u truly r helping me... :lol:
Do you think this live action movie is coming to Europe? I live in Latvia
u know, and Latvian television has NEVER EVER showed even a single Eva episode. Not even one Eva screenshot on TV... It's so painfull to live in a country where the only Anime people know about is Yu-Gi-Oh... :x
Now when this movie's coming,
I'm sure someone will try to show Eva on TV. People will know about Eva.
It's an Eva-Revolution 4 Latvia. :D
Riga? That's a sea side town in Latvia on the Baltic? You want to get anime shown more in your country? You are going to have to drum up interest. You may be in luck if you contact some of the larger anime distributers, both in America and in Japan. They are always looking for people to help them open up new markets for their products. You have three things going for you in doing this:
1. You like anime and sort of understand it.
2. You have an enthusiasm for anime and are in their target age demographic.
3. You understand Latvia, it's people and their likes and dislikes.

Some anime companies help seed anime clubs with films and other promotional material in order to create interest in their product. Write to the different companies out there and see if they would be interested in helping you. :D
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Post by rucka » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:37 am

K, I'll try... :)
Thanx again! :D

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Post by the Black Monarch » Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:21 pm

- The evidence that Rei has anything to do with Lillith or Yui is very, very questionable.
- The evidence that Kaworu has anything to do with Adam is even more questionable
- The live-action Eva movie is being written by ADV themselves, with no involvement from Anno, so it will suck runny maggot ass.

What is this "rebirth of Evangelion" that you speak of? Some kind of fan movie? Or are you talking about Renewal and/or End of Eva?
Ask me about my secret stash of videos that can't be found anywhere anymore.

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Post by bobbarker31 » Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:49 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:- The evidence that Rei has anything to do with Lillith or Yui is very, very questionable.
- The evidence that Kaworu has anything to do with Adam is even more questionable
- The live-action Eva movie is being written by ADV themselves, with no involvement from Anno, so it will suck runny maggot ass.

What is this "rebirth of Evangelion" that you speak of? Some kind of fan movie? Or are you talking about Renewal and/or End of Eva?
I would disagree. I think Rei has Lillith's soul and her body was created using genetic material from Yui. What evidence do we have of that. We it was never directly stated, but Rei looks just like Yui Ikari. There is the obvious connection with her to Gendo and Shinji that is more than just a casual relationship. There is much subtext between them. That Shinji connects Rei with being like a Mom when his memories of mothers is a vague one is telling.

As for her containing the soul of Lillith, I think that Seele came up with this secenario as the only way to control the progenitor angels. The progenitor angels that create other life forms are Adam and Lillith. Adam nearly got away from them when it awoke. Removing the soul probably made it more docile. There was no threat of the angel awaking like the one in the volcano did. Gendo even felt safe enough to have it installed in his hand. The capture and imprisonment of Lillith went much smoother than that of Adam. There was no event like Second Impact in her containment. The Lance of Longinous was impaled in her as more of an afterthought. It was not needed to restrain Lillith's body. Lillith was being used as a LCL factory in Terminal Dogma.

So, the souls of the two progenitors were kept in two vessels: Rei and Kaworu, where they could be closely watched. That Kaworu contains Adam's soul is unquestionable. The director's cut of episode 24 has him having a conversation with Seele on the subject. Rei and Kaworu provided valuable research information to Geherin and Nerv. Not only were they the first subjects used in the synch rate testing, their own cloned bodies were used as the dummy plugs for the Evas.

Both were teenagers and at least Rei was interacting with other kids and society, but both were terribly socially ackward. Why physically the same as other human children, being of Rei and Adam's souls may have caused their inability to adapt to social situations.

Just my 2 cents. But is a better explanation than any that I have heard so far.
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