FLCL n00bs

Edge22 · Post by **Edge22** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:38 pm

okay this is where most of people that like FLCL piss me off. They say Haru Hara Haruko plays a guitar. SHE PLAYS A BASS. If your a music n00b, a Bass is a instrument similar to guitar but has 4 very thick strings. The moment when i snapped about this is when i saw the banner that said she uses a guitar. The reason why I'm getting so pissed at this is because i play Bass. So most FLCL fans are FLCL n00bs

someperson · Post by **someperson** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:46 pm

True. she does play bass instead of a guitar but I don't really think that this common mistake is something to get pissed off about. Irritated, possibly. But not pissed off.

Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:51 pm

Isn't it not a bass, but a bass guitar? Because is sure as hell ain't a lute.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:57 pm

Tsunami Jones wrote:Isn't it not a bass, but a bass guitar? Because is sure as hell ain't a lute.

You know, I've always thought that "bass guitar" is a misnomer, and that the proper term is "electric bass" or just (more generally) "bass".

I'm guessing that most people say "bass guitar" because, if you just say "bass", it's far too ambiguous. I mean, just imagine Haruko hitting Naota with, say, Takehito Koyasu.

(Or an acoustic (upright) bass. That would be a hell of a lot funnier, let me tell you that.)

Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:03 pm

Scintilla wrote: I'm guessing that most people say "bass guitar" because, if you just say "bass", it's far too ambiguous. I mean, just imagine Haruko hitting Naota with, say, Takehito Koyasu.

Or even a large fish . . .

Here's a wikipedia page on guitars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar

Edge22 · Post by **Edge22** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:11 pm

Scintilla wrote: You know, I've always thought that "bass guitar" is a misnomer, and that the proper term is "electric bass" or just (more generally) "bass".

I'm guessing that most people say "bass guitar" because, if you just say "bass", it's far too ambiguous. I mean, just imagine Haruko hitting Naota with, say, Takehito Koyasu.

(Or an acoustic (upright) bass. That would be a hell of a lot funnier, let me tell you that.)

actually an acoustic bass is not an upright bass its an acoustic guitar with
bass strings, I know this im a bass player. And whats is a Takehito Koyasu?

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:18 pm

Edge22 wrote:
Scintilla wrote:(Or an acoustic (upright) bass. That would be a hell of a lot funnier, let me tell you that.)
actually an acoustic bass is not an upright bass its an acoustic guitar with
bass strings, I know this im a bass player.

Um, the upright (double) bass is acoustic too. I don't see the problem.

Anyway, thank you TJ for the link -- I found just what I was hoping for:

<a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_guitar>Wikipedia</a> wrote:The long-established manufacturers of electric basses have never used "bass guitar" to label their instruments. It could be argued that "bass guitar" originated in retail catalogues and the phrase has since gained popular currency among the masses.

Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:29 pm

Scintilla wrote:
<a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_guitar>Wikipedia</a> wrote: It could be argued that "bass guitar" originated in retail catalogues and the phrase has since gained popular currency among the masses.

That's very possible . . . although several dictionaries that I found labeled the bass in question as a guitar. Not to mention there are multiple types of bass instruments (bass horn, bass violin) so labeling it to differentiate it from those other insturments is rather helpful.

Here's another history page: http://www.weedhopper.org/Bass_Guitar_History.asp

Kai Stromler · Post by **Kai Stromler** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:33 pm

I play bass. I've played three of the four major variants: electric, acoustic, and acoustic upright, but never had the fortune (or cash) to play an electric upright -- which do exist and appear to have been invented exclusively for complicating the question of what version of the low-register Western stringed instrument gets called what.

Generally this is understood in context; there's no need to call a double bass/bass viol/bass fiddle anything but a bass in an orchestral or jazz setting, just the same way that a bass in a rock combo is assumed to be electric unless declared otherwise.

Ontopic:
It wouldn't be a problem if Haruka played a Fender, or an Ibanez, or something else generic, but the fact of the matter is that the Rickenbacker 4000 series is pretty much as iconic a bass as exists, and if people don't recognize it, but still pretend to buy into FLCL's rock'n'roll spirit, they are indeed, as the OP stated, n00bs.

However, the bigger problem is that this lack of recognition among FLCL fans -- and, actually, the existence of this thread -- is a symptom of a widespread problem that boils down to this: bassists don't never get no respect. We play a technical instrument that destroys the nerve endings of eight of our fingers permanently, and we get pushed to the back and told to shut up and play some numbskull line so that the other players don't get lost. "Drone on A for 12 measures -- just walk -- play 1-3-5-4" -- no matter the era or style, nothing ever changes. Stanley Clarke, Victor Wooten, and Lemmy had to start their own bands before anyone would give them the time of day. WHAT THE HELL.

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--K

Malificus · Post by **Malificus** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:35 pm

Look, Haruyko uses a 1960 Rickenbacker bass guitar, model 4001.