Naruto...the new DBZ?

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Re: Oops, I did it again...

Post by Castor Troy » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:13 am

RutKiskasca wrote:First, the score. I may still give lower scores for originality if a video uses Naruto and Linkin Park, just because, how original could anyone make it with those two sources? However, I will give much more consideration to what was done visually when determining that score.
I can still make a super badass Naruto and FMA crossover with the 2. :roll:
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Re: Oops, I did it again...

Post by OzzieAlThor79 » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:24 am

Castor Troy wrote:
RutKiskasca wrote:First, the score. I may still give lower scores for originality if a video uses Naruto and Linkin Park, just because, how original could anyone make it with those two sources? However, I will give much more consideration to what was done visually when determining that score.
I can still make a super badass Naruto and FMA crossover with the 2. :roll:
And so can everyone else. Hence the questions on the originality score...

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Post by RanChan13 » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:28 am

There are animes that by thier very nature and overuse should have a maximum required Originality score. However there are times where one can be surprised even with overused crap.
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Post by godix » Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:01 am

Just do what I do, specify no DBZ/Naruto vids in your free op. I started doing this when I realized any op of the typical DBZ/Naruto vid I did would probably involve lots of cursing and if it's a particularly bad video probably some fond wishes of harm as well.

That being said, originality is more than the anime/song. I personally look primarily at editing style. I have given low originality scores to vids that were the first to use it's anime just because the style was a carbon copy of the typical DBZ action vid or Naruto angst vid. Similarly a vid with overused anime that has an unusual editing style deserves high marks. For example, I consider The Wasteland pretty original despite the fact that Eva is almost as overused as DBZ and Naruto (not that I actually oped it or anything). Scene selection, anime, and song all affect originality but far less than the editing style IMNSHO.

As for revenge ops, fuck em. I think the prevelance of revenge ops is vastly overrated. I've never recieved a single one despite being below orgs average on all scoring catagories. I suspect it's partially because I explain my scores in the op which helps eliminate the illusion that I just gave out random bad scores.
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Re: Oops, I did it again...

Post by Arigatomina » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:46 am

OzzieAlThor79 wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:I can still make a super badass Naruto and FMA crossover with the 2. :roll:
And so can everyone else. Hence the questions on the originality score...
You're joking, right? I mean, you don't honestly think "everyone" could make a crossover video, do you? Try it sometime.

I'm still waiting for a DBZ/YYH crossover video. I'd settle for Naruto/DBZ or Naruto/YYH if I had to. But no FMA. I still haven't seen that anime. :(

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Post by [Mike of the Desert] » Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:47 am

I usually don't judge AMVs by the anime.. I actually look at how the video is edited, the effort and all the work behind the work, I judge the originality of a video by the way it is done or maybe by the concept, sometimes of course by the anime. About Naruto videos... Well.. The first thing I do to avoid this problem is to NEVER download .wmv files. This is the first pass, so on you can always find some really enjoyable videos, and watching them you should not think "I don't like it becuase it is naruto", because maybe you sincerely like it, of course see always the same clips can be.. Hateful. There can be a 1000000 Naruto videos with all great concepts, the problem, is that they not exist, there is the bad idea to what the opinion forum says, in the originality From 1 to 10, there is (not exactly) "1: Following the Music + Random Scenes Way", well, There is TOO MUCH of these. Anyway, it is not simple, it is an important problem.. I'm actually confused.
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Re: Oops, I did it again...

Post by OzzieAlThor79 » Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:24 am

Arigatomina wrote:
OzzieAlThor79 wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:I can still make a super badass Naruto and FMA crossover with the 2. :roll:
And so can everyone else. Hence the questions on the originality score...
You're joking, right? I mean, you don't honestly think "everyone" could make a crossover video, do you? Try it sometime.

I'm still waiting for a DBZ/YYH crossover video. I'd settle for Naruto/DBZ or Naruto/YYH if I had to. But no FMA. I still haven't seen that anime. :(
My point was anyone can. Heck I could throw something together in a couple days. It would be crap, but it's possible. The point is will it be *quality* and *original*. If you take a DBZ/Naruto crossover bit and do it to "Chop Suey" it will already be kinda iffy for originality points.

The question is can a video have DBZ/Naruto/At-some-point-FMA amd still be unique? Can a video have Linkin park and Evaesence and still be original?

Anyone can make videos, it's who can make something original...

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Post by Illison » Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:51 pm

Yea Naruto is very overused, basically I've only found one I like. Whisper of the beast. The other ones are just clones of each others with different songs. Theres been a few I've liked but thats because of how innovative their editing skills where, because they basically used the same ol' scenes that most people seem to do using any popular anime.

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Re: Oops, I did it again...

Post by Pyle » Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:03 pm

OzzieAlThor79 wrote:
Castor Troy wrote: I can still make a super badass Naruto and FMA crossover with the 2. :roll:
And so can everyone else. Hence the questions on the originality score...
Everyone can also make kooptangles.

But it's not that easy, is it?

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Post by Castor Troy » Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:06 pm

Ok, I'm making a naruto video.
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