what would you rather [have hits or opinions?]

bloodyhawk · Post by **bloodyhawk** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:13 pm

alot of hits or opinions...cause i dont see why opinions are so important its just a review by someone so wouldnt it be better to have alot of hits?

Zaphod_Beeblebrox · Post by **Zaphod_Beeblebrox** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:15 pm

well it depends on how good you are as an editor, if you're a kickass editor theoretically it would be best to have masses of hits, but if you're a crap-mediocre editore it would be best to have loads of opinions to tell you what to do to get better...always supposing the opinions themselves are good...

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:28 pm

i'd choose opinions. i always enjoy reading and hearing feedback. hits provide an indicator of the widespread-ness of the video, but are less important than ops, at least to me.

there are several why creators value opinions - they tell how the audience thinks of their vids, with more opinions creators get a better idea of how their vids are generally received, and opinions provide helpful suggestions and criticisms that help creators improve either technically or stylistically.

bum · Post by **bum** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:37 pm

I prefer opinions. It just feels good when someone takes intrest in something you've spent alot of time working hard on. It also helps me impove as an editor, as a creator is usualy the one most blinded to the faults of his work.

Zaphod_Beeblebrox · Post by **Zaphod_Beeblebrox** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:40 pm

bum wrote:a creator is usualy the one most blinded to the faults of his work.

But that does also work the other way, a lot of creators can tend to be overly critical.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:58 pm

I prefer downloads or opinions. I have a few vids that get tons of hits - because they use a hundred sources and show up on searches a lot. That doesn't mean anyone actually downloads them, let alone actually likes them. For some vids, the ones using odd themes or unfamiliar anime, I'm thrilled to get downloads - just so I know people are giving it a chance, or interested enough to check the video out. The same thing holds for vids made with very popular sources - it's nice to know that among the masses, someone downloaded *my* video.

For vids where I'm expecting a fan response - where I'm fulfilling what I see as a need or 'want' from my target audience - I expect feedback. In that case, a few opinions are my validation for sharing. I don't pine for lots and lots of opinions, but I do expect there to be a nice ratio of downloads to opinions - because the only people who'd download these vids are the sort who'd want to encourage more vids for similar themes - they give their opinions and give me ideas on other 'takes' and ideas they'd like to see made. This is a major source of ideas for me, so I look forward to the feedback on these vids.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Sun May 22, 2005 8:14 pm

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sun May 22, 2005 8:40 pm

Ops. For me, the right kind of attention is impossible to measure in terms of quantity, only quality.

Bakadeshi · Post by **Bakadeshi** » Sun May 22, 2005 8:49 pm

Arigatomina wrote:I prefer downloads or opinions. I have a few vids that get tons of hits - because they use a hundred sources and show up on searches a lot. That doesn't mean anyone actually downloads them, let alone actually likes them..

thats exactly what I was thinking when I saw the thread title ;p Hits mean nothing if you have 10000 hits and only 100 downloads ;p the download number is much more important to me. If it was between downloads and ops, I'd be a hard choice. but between hits and ops, I'd have to go with the ops.

Coffee 54 · Post by **Coffee 54** » Sun May 22, 2005 9:07 pm

Arigatomina wrote:For some vids, the ones using odd themes or unfamiliar anime, I'm thrilled to get downloads - just so I know people are giving it a chance, or interested enough to check the video out. The same thing holds for vids made with very popular sources - it's nice to know that among the masses, someone downloaded *my* video.

Ditto. Though for me, as someone who started editing with an audience of two including me, as many as 30 downloads can constitute alot.

Ops on the other hand are something I hunt for when I want some detailed feedback on specific videos. Or, maybe to get some insite from other creators whos work I enjoy watching. Free, unsolicited, ops are also nice. Even the short ones take a little extra time that the oper could have spent elsewhere. So I guess my vote is for ops.