Originality In Anime Music Video's

[Zarxrax]

Actually you make no sense. So you say you make an amv, without days of planning it.

And just where did I say anything of the sort?

But when I see people using the overused cutting out and doing lip synch out of a part that has nothing to do with the song or anime.
That just looks really dumb.

That's all in the eye of the beholder. Whether or not it looks dumb to you is completely irrelevant.

[downwithpants]

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[Poetic_Kaos]

Alright I know this sounds dumb, but I've been getting the feeling that people only like AMV's bY effects. I kinda find no point in effects. Anime Music Videos are kinda like art. You think about how your gonna edit your AMV. Then once your done, you look at the results. But people keep saying certain AMV's aren't good cause of effects. I see no point in Effects. Maybe some like the ones of "Whisper of the Beast". But now I see nothing, but filter effects or cutting out certain characters just to lip synch. I see no point, in its just a other way for the creator to say. Hey look I added this cool looking effect. But it has absolutely no point in it. They have no point in the theme or the anime. If you look at the really good amv creators or really good amv's. Like Whisper of the Best you see no filter effects to catch the fans attention. So I kinda need to hear everyone else's opinion on using filter effects in AMV's.

I see no point in vegeto being spelled with three Gs, but obviously because you have written it my point is pointless. Although one could ask, “Why are you so bent on everything having a meaning are you watching AMVs for the hope of being enlighten or having an epiphany?”

I often wonder why I see videos that are so dull, contrite, and simplistically boring. They simply begged for anything to be added whether it made sense or not. Why do people watch Bond movies, everyone knows they make little to no sense. It is the “eye candy”, the simple fact that something can make 5 min feel like 3. But maybe I should wait until you produce something, and after I’ve had my epiphany we will share the same point of view.

[Nightowl]

Okay, fine, maybe I'll say a little something, for no other reason than the fact that it offends me when this kind of comment rears its ugly head every other week. You say that AMVs are 'kind of like art.' Well, an artist, typically, likes to put himself or herself into the project he or she is creating. I, personally, use effects to get my own personal message across utilizing the show in question and my own thematic or stylistic contributions to said project. If everyone cut videos straight, there would be no originality in any of the projects. It would be fan pandering. I lean toward the narcisitic, I want to get MY message across. This is MY video. Therefore, I will create my own style within the video, thus making the project more mine than another rehash of the show.

Not all videos that utilize effects do so just to be flashy. It is possible to find videos that have effects (I hate the term 'effects video' because, at least for me, the effects are not the point, they are simply tools), you just have to look for them. There's a reason for the comparison to Hollywood. All the flashy movies get the attention, whereas the more subversive, artistically inclined do not. And these days, that could mean a rather large effects budget. It's tough to find a movie that does not use some form of digital process these days, that's the nature of the beast. When film came around, everybody thought it was bullshit because how could it ever be better than theatre. Well, now film is considered an artform in its own right.

Generalizing a stylistic decision is simply uninformed. People will say that the entire point of making videos is to make them for yourself, but then why pander to an audience? Why send them to cons? As creators, for the most part, we are entertainers. That is our point. That is why cons usually have a big AMV thing. We entertain. If making Sailor Moon fuck Knight Rider will get a laugh, it'll probably get done. If making Kanti fall in love with that dog from Excel Saga will draw a tear from a single member of that audience, it'll be done. Hence, effects.

This shit doesn't happen in the shows. You have to make it happen. If you're a depressed suicidal romantic ex-heroin addict who can't keep a relationship together, you make shit like Playground Love, a video that is apparently very boring and full of effects. And not one of those top ten-ers.

I'm fucking sick of this question/comment! I'm tired of it! Will everyone PLEASE:

LEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE!

Are you happy, Hsien? ARE YOU FUCKING HAPPY?! I'M DRINKING AGAIN!!!

-N

[Vegggeto_WS_]

So you use filter effects to get your point across. OK thats just retarted and Isee people here, don't understand what a discussion is, this ain't a debate.

[SuperFusion]

Screw what everyone else said. This is all you need to know:


People use effects when they see it fit.

[paizuri]

So you use filter effects to get your point across. OK thats just retarted and Isee people here, don't understand what a discussion is, this ain't a debate.

You must be able to see your reflection in your monitor.

It's one thing to have a point of view, but to declare that it is THE point of view and everyone else is wrong is close-minded. How can you call AMVs a form of art when you deny people their means of creating that art? What are these filter effects that you deride so much if not merely another tool used in creating AMVs? Adding/creating/deleting/removing/manipulating the footage itself is as valid a form of video editing as rearranging the order of the pre-existing "finished" material (in this case, anime footage). Effects in and of themselves are neither good nor bad. Their use in videos may strengthen or weaken the videos but the responsibility for their insertion (barring strange encoding errors) is primarily the creators'.

Like Zarxrax said, for whatever the reason that people put "effects" as you call them into a video, just because you don't happen to like them doesn't mean they don't have a point. If you think that the "effects" don't achieve any particular point, then you should blame the creator of that video for failing to convey that message to you through the use of those effects. If you can't understand how an "effect" can draw the eye or emphasize something in a scene or create an overall mood or any number of other things to present a point or message, then you're missing out on a lot of interesting things in life.

[Nightowl]

No, Paizuri, he's right. I am retarTed. I am very much a 'tart. I have seen the error of my ways. I shall discontinue my creation of videos immediately. I find it most amazing that he somehow put me in my place without making a single comment as to what I said. Apparently I said only one thing, which he found to be TARTY.

And just for you. HSIEN. Get your fucking bitch ass back on the internet and respond to the fucking shit I say to you COCKMASTER. I can't fucking believe a little fucking shit like you would not respond to me. Who the fucking hell do you think you are?! YOU'RE MY BITCH. You make me breakfast and I FUCKING EAT IT. Now get your WHORE ASS BACK HERE AND RESPOND COCK SHIT FUCK CUNT TWAT TWATTY FUCKMASTER OF THE FUCKING COCKSUCKERS JOE CROASDAILE. Or however the fuck he spells his fucking name. WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYONE?! ENTERTAIN ME FUCKERS!!!

-N

[Nightowl]

Oh, and as a postscript:

I WIN MOTHERFUCKERS!

-N

[paizuri: You know, I made Kalium unlock this thread earlier because I thought that there might be some useful revelations made here and I was right. But I think this thread should be locked now to prevent further, um, revelations.]