Gundam UC

Heero_Yuy84 · Post by **Heero_Yuy84** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:08 pm

older_gohan wrote:Now here's one what was your take on Char's Counter attack? I mean about the sides and their views in general. They really took it from all sides and ages of what this war meant.

CCA..a great concept with some amazing technicals...and, who knows, with an OVA-length to flesh things out more, they really could have done some great stuff. As it is now, however, it's like F91...a lot of promise, but not without its disappointments...

...seriously...am I the only one who found it a bit much to swallow that, after saying he got over Lalah in Zeta, Char was willing to start a new war so he could get revenge on Amuro for her choosing him?

The movie just wound up making Char look REALLY childish in that light.

and to weigh-in on the earlier 08th Discussion.

See...the Romeo&Juliet angle was what REALLY shot 08th in the foot to me (...well...that, and I personlly believe Shiro and Aina should have died...sadder, yes...but a lot more believable. For every point 08th scored for being technically true (...that said, I still say as realistic mecha combat goes, VOTOMS still has it trumped, but that's a talk for another day.) it fell flat on its face for some fantastical storytelling.

Shiro abandoning his comrades in arms, who he's shed blood, sweat, and tears alongside for several months, so he can run off with a woman he's known all of... ...you know, I'm not even sure they'd cleared 24 hours together before ep 11 rolled around.

Now, a little suspension of disbelief isn't always a bad thing...but that kind of stretch was just too much to swallow. If they'd fleshed it out more, maybe...but as it is, the 'Love at first sight' concept just looks REALLY out of place.

Or...as one of my friends put it best:
The most realistic part of the Shiro/Aina story arc was when Shiro gave his speech about them being a couple and everyone getting along in ep 11... ...and the EF brass proceeded to laugh their asses off.

older_gohan · Post by **older_gohan** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:21 pm

Personally I think char's mentality had degrated to the point where everyone he saw was a memory of Lalah. I don't think he ever got over it but tried to hide it. CCA really hinted at the idea he was hiding it very well. Although I'm not sure if could truly get over it or not. It's really a toss up in the matter.

I agree with your comment on the fact Shiro and Aina should of died. It would have made the tragedy effect great for the story line. I always enjoy a good love story but that ends in tragedy sometimes.

You can see at the begining of the show they shot for the front lines feel but they tried to make everything oh so happy and glorious at the end. They both should of dieed and possibly another member of the 08th ms team to stab in the idea that this really was war.

Maybe I should write a fan fic with something like that. That would be kind of cool.

Either way 08th did a decent job, CCA was rather amazing visually and in a story line. But really can you get better than the U.C. ep's?

Heero_Yuy84 · Post by **Heero_Yuy84** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:18 pm

Not really, but even UC has it's low points (...let's face it...0083 and ZZ weren't exactly proud moments in the history...at least, the first half of ZZ)

Android raptor · Post by **Android raptor** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:38 pm

Yes, I totally agree about 08th. If I didn't have so much damn attachment to it, I'd say 0080 is better.

SulliMike23 · Post by **SulliMike23** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:58 am

AR!!?! *sigh* should've known...Oh well. I'm glad someone decided to talk about the UC Gundams instead of the AUs. Either way, it's fine by me.

Heero_Yuy84 · Post by **Heero_Yuy84** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:24 pm

OK...for the sake of keeping conversation going...

You guys have any particular favored part of the UC timeline, or, on this note, parts of the timeline you think need more attention?
Personally, I'm putting my vote on 0087...probably a sucky year to actively live through (given prettymuch anyone was fair game as targets went) but still makes for some awesome stories (Zeta, Advance of Zeta, and from what I've checked out so far Sentinel (tech. a ZZ sidestory, but I digress) and Ecole Du Ciel both have potential.)

SulliMike23 · Post by **SulliMike23** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:36 pm

I think it should focus after the events in Victory Gundam. Because the Earth Federation and Militia's war against the Zanscare Empire, the Federation has been pretty much bogged down to the point where it's about to fall.

older_gohan · Post by **older_gohan** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:21 pm

Any of you guys interested in reading part of a U.C. fan fic I'm doing.
The time is actually U.C. 0073 up to just before the One Year War.

Android raptor · Post by **Android raptor** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:48 pm

SulliMike23 wrote: AR!!?! *sigh* should've known...Oh well. I'm glad someone decided to talk about the UC Gundams instead of the AUs. Either way, it's fine by me.

Yes! I have stalked you!

Anyway, how is Zeta? I hear it's REALLY good, but I'm hesitant about buying to boxset cause' it's so gosh-darn exspensive....

older_gohan · Post by **older_gohan** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:55 pm

Zeta is very good like much of the UC series. I would get it if I were you not jsut for the quality but also the novelty of having it.

I enjoyed the end of 0079 and 0080. It was a interesting time of change among both Zeon and E.F. Forces. It was probably alot like japan towards the end of WWII.

Alot of people still fighting for a cause that had been abandoned to a point. Alot of great stories came from that.