windows media maker

prettysoldiersailormoon · Post by **prettysoldiersailormoon** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:55 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:I have actually seen a few GOOD amvs from WMM but they didnt use fansubs, and the editorer put ALOT more effort into it thand the good 85% that just drops crap in... to me it depends not on what program it was made in but weather or not the editorer has talant...I use the .WMV render (in Vegas) because I am still learning how to compress, when I get my compression skills down, then I might try other options, but for now .WMV is my best bet, and is clearest for me...

I agree. I've seen my fair share of good amv's from WMM, but only if the editor has talent and actually tries, and doesn't just throw random subtitled scenes in and then make us op them. And as long as they use good quality video too.

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:10 pm

its main advantage is it's very easy to trim and index specific scenes. the main problem with no workaround other than using a different editing prog is that it can't do layering.

since 2.1, stability isn't a major problem. it freezes now and then, but it can last for a while before freezing.

for beat synch, wmm edits at 15 fps, which means you'll be off by +- 0.03 sec. but when ever i've seen beat synch fall noticeably off, it's almost always the fault of the editor rather than the editing prog. and there are roundabout ways to get wmm to edit at 30 fps.

it edits linearly meaning clips are placed at the end of the last clip you put on the timeline, but there are ways to get around that.

wmv compression is good for low bitrate encoding, though not cross-platform compatible. if you want good high bitrate encoding, you can use the high-bitrate export settings and compress with xvid/h.263 using vdub.

yoshimetsuX · Post by **yoshimetsuX** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:51 am

Window Crap...i mean...movie maker? tried it onced, this was before
i knew how to really make a Amv, i didn't like it, was too clonky.
felt like it was holding me back too,...well, thats what i would say to anyone now, progrems that don't let u edit in real-time like WMM
really keeps u from making anything good, i've seen a few decent one's
but they where from creators that knew what they where doing and was just humoring the progrem,(no offenese)
overall, WMM is a good progrem to give new comers exp in timeline
editing and frame transitioning, but it only goes so far.

bum · Post by **bum** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:52 am

Mr Pilkington wrote:u can't afford to buy a cheep copy of Ulead or Magix, you shouldn't be editing. Hell, half the people here act as if they can't afford the DVDs

I'l second that, parcialy. WMM is good but if you're going to get serios about editing, $50 for a copy of magix isnt much to spend and does realy help, alot more than some half-linear editor.

Ileia · Post by **Ileia** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:54 am

bum wrote:
Mr Pilkington wrote:u can't afford to buy a cheep copy of Ulead or Magix, you shouldn't be editing. Hell, half the people here act as if they can't afford the DVDs
I'l second that, parcialy. WMM is good but if you're going to get serios about editing, $50 for a copy of magix isnt much to spend and does realy help, alot more than some half-linear editor.

Magix Music Maker Deluxe 2005 is down to $30. That's about the price of a DVD (depending upon what you're buying, it may be less).

bum · Post by **bum** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:13 am

Ah, so the "I'm poor" excuse now perfectly identifies someone using dl'd footage. Perfect

At that price I'l probably buy it just because its got one seriosly nice looking gui.

Aieli, I saw your profile pic. Your hot. Damnit why are all geeky chicks on the other side of the earth.

Ileia · Post by **Ileia** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:27 pm

bum wrote:Ah, so the "I'm poor" excuse now perfectly identifies someone using dl'd footage. Perfect

At that price I'l probably buy it just because its got one seriosly nice looking gui.

Aieli, I saw your profile pic. Your hot. Damnit why are all geeky chicks on the other side of the earth.

What profile pic? Rei?

Sorry, I hate to break it to you, but I'm not Rei.

Iamshadowkiller · Post by **Iamshadowkiller** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:39 pm

that's Aieli alright

don't fall for her trickery

/end

Niotex · Post by **Niotex** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:16 pm

I have never realy edited in WMM the only thing i used it for back then was compression... I can savely say that atleast 90% of the more advance editors here use other software then WMM due to its limits... i personaly use Premiere Pro 1.0 wich treats me nicely and the same way around... Though i other software dosnt mean better video's i've seen allot of premiere video's that suck and some (yes some cause they're very few) WMM video's that actualy stand out above the normal/average video here on the org... Anyway if you were looking for a % marge of WMM users on the org i would have to go with atleast 50% of all the video's on the org are done with WMM...

Niotex · Post by **Niotex** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:26 pm

Mr Pilkington wrote:Real editors use Avid!

I totaly overlooked this but anyway...

Avid is a industrial montage/editing program... i dont think allot of people can afford it... I got it dirt cheap thnx to my school and i have a leggit copy of it lying around here somewhere in my hobby room *sigh* but i just cant seem to do with it what i want... it just feels strange to me... but anyway yeah i guese avid is the thing for hardcore editors though i fancy premiere over avid in my free time =)

Also i still need to learn all of avid's keyboard shortcuts =/ i should be recieving one (two actualy cause im also getting one for premiere just to get clearance for a couple of workshops from school) of those coloured keyboards somewhere this week. so that would make things a lot easy're =)