DEJIMON ADVENTURE - ZERO TWO

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DEJIMON ADVENTURE vs. ZERO TWO




I've gotta say Digimon Adventure was better than ZERO TWO, because, in spite of the Etamon Arc, it had better drama, storylines, character development and characters overall.

PROS:

The Beginning: Black Gears and Devimon: This was a lot of fun to watch and still is: It showed off the characters personalities in their own personal episodes in which their digimon evolve to their CHAMPION forms and have to go against Devimon and his black gears. It was a cool way to start off the series overall. - 4/5


Myotistmon(?) Story Arc: This is where things got serious. This story arc showed off the better qualities of drama and character development (and more evolution for the Digimon of course - which was hook line and sinker to be honest). Myotistmon was a cool villain, much worse than Devimon but took too much time trying to accomplish what he needed to get done. Thus ultimately causing his own downfall. The Venom Myotistmon Arc (all two or three episodes) was cool because it revealed more about the Digimon's abilities and Agumon and Gabumon WARP-DIGIVOLED into their third most powerful forms (MEGA) which was a nice braker, but in the end it was teamwork that defeated him. 5/5


DARKMASTERS Story Arc: At that time (2000) this story arc was the heaviest and most dramatic one for me to endure. The characters were coming apart at the seems, Matt and Joe seemed to be the most troubled out of all them (Tai was second with his guilt for what happened to his sister), and to top it all off they were against the ropes with some of the most seasoned ---and ultimately annoying (I.E., Puppetmon if anything)---- MEGA Digimon that took over the digital world faster than Devimon or Myoitstmon(?) could even dream of. Their separation made them stronger characters and better partners to their Digimon in the end. 4/5


The TAGS and CRESTS ARC: To be honest, Etamon was simply a character [villain] fodder for this story arc which really revolved around the Digidestined searching for their CRESTS and learning how to use them. It wasn't my favorite story arc to be frank either (my favorite episode being "Home away from Home," - "Weregarurumon's Diner," and "Sora's Crest of Love,"), Tai's personality did a major One-Eighty in the dislike department, but its what happened after and during Etamon's reign on SERVER that mattered. The ULTIMATE Digimon were the coolest. 3/5



CONS in these arcs:

ORGEMON (in the beginning)

ETAMON (in both his arc and the DARKMASTERS saga)

DATAMON (little creep)

PUPPETMON (annoying)

T.K. (Takeru's character wasn't very likable in the DARKMASTERS saga (or that episode "Forget About it!"). And no it wasn't because he practically dissed Matt for being overprotective of him either.)

APOCALMON (annoying to no end, but served his purpose)

Overall: 4/5









ZERO TWO:








At first ADVENTURE II seemed like it was really gonna be a cool continuation of ADVENTURE I and it was back when I was a kid. But now that I'm older, I can really see the flaws in this season. In the end it was sort of a disappointment for me. Yes, the plus of this series was that Tai and the gang were all teenagers (around 14 and beyond for Joe) and more mature characters, but they were hardly seen which was bothersome for me. Plus it just made me feel so "OLD." The introduction of a new digivolving mechanism and the D-3s was a bit too easy digivolving for me as time grew on. It was like Rookie Digimon jumping straight to Demi-MEGA Digimon in a second flat without really working to achive their new forms. Most of them were really disappointing evloutions to be honesty anyways (Like Digmon's, Hawkmon (his second digi-armor form) Patamon and Gatomon's). Plus the D-3s were just ugly looking. The lack of members and the new characters getting two Digi-eggs was kinda lame. It was like the creators either didn't feel like making Eight-minus characters for the digi-eggs or simply did see the need to (either option is logical). And the new characters themselves, including the older versions of Kari and T.K. were a bit on the one-dimensional side. Davis was your carbon "Tai" character only he was picked on constantly by the group but ended up being the most likable to my surprise. Yolie was Sora and Mimi put together to a point and her perky personality was just annoying most of the time. Cody was an instant dislike to begin with after episode one: For whatever reason I have forgotten but I think it was his Voice-Actor that did much of the damage, a poor choice on SABAN's part. Kari and Takeru's characters were gone completely and replaced with very dry personalities. Kari's voice actor did nothing to change my opinion of her, it was the same woman after all, but I think it was her personality and the way she handled things that make me weary of her. T.K.'s voice actor was a horrible choice and just made his character unlikable (he's good for Joe's brother Jim, but that it). Plus I think Takeru was still trying too hard to distance himself from his brother Matt and prove he was able to take care of himself. His exploits like Confronting the Digimon Emperor or his obvious dislike of DARKNESS did nothing to further his personality; if anything he was just an angry person in most episodes. Plus his and other's ragging on Davis was annoying. Another negative is that the New Digidestined really were as strong friends as the originals: They had nothing to make their friendship strong or memorable: No Digital world to make them rely on the other, they could leave any time they liked. They were just like your average friends that attended middle-school. Nothing special with the exception of Ken and Davis' surprisingly strong friendship. Now onto the arcs:



CONS AND PROS:

The first Villain and story arc: The Digimon Emperor was lame to me to begin with: A human being with the power to control digimon through rings, spires and spirals (which was like BLACK GEARS revisited) and then taking so long to defeat him was disjointed for me. His only positive is that he became a likable character after he reformed through a series of dramatic episodes that almost became soap opera-like. 3/5



The Arukenimon and Mummymon Story Arc: This was mildly interesting because Arukenimon and Mummymon at the beginning were interesting villains and seemed to let nothing get in their way. But in the end they were just cannon fodder for the new Digidestined's digimon to FINALLY achive their CHAMPION and DNA forms (f-i-n-a-l-l-y!), which either turned out to be a bust (I.E., Shakuamon(?) -Angemon and Armadillomon's champion form whose name escpes me) or a majorly cool success (I.E., Syliphimon(?) - Hawkmon's champion form and Gaotmon). 3/5



The BLACK WARGREYMON/DESTINY STONES Story Arc: His arrival was cool and so was the way he whooped the digidestined's tail was awsome, but in the end he began to ask far too many questions at once and in every episode he appeared in and thus became the character I wished was killed off quicker. Black Wargreymon could've been something of a cool and again, misunderstood villain, but they tried to get us to pity him for what he was which was annoying. And the DESTINY STONES were a complete waste of time and air time, I was glad when it was over though it did explain some things I had no desire to know about. The funniest episode had to be "Stone Soup" overall. - 3.1/5


The WORLD TOUR/DARK SPORES/MALOMYOTISMON Story Arcs: This is basically the end of the series. It does a good job of tying up loose ends not explained at the beginning - like who made Arukenimon and Mummymon, the true Origin of the Control Spires and what not, which all in all ended up being the work of an old nemesis. The best part of the end of ZERO TWO had to be the "WORLD TOUR" ARC, which ended up being a lot of fun and overall adventurous enough that it made me wanna go flying around the world to see all that there is to see. The finale was a good finale given ZERO TWO's track record, but all in all it wasn't a horrible season or ending, just not a well written one. - 3/5



NOTABLE PROS

The Older Digidestined episode appearances

"A very Digi-Christmas"

Davis

Ken

MAGNAMON

WAR GERYOMON - the ORIGINAL

The reappearance of the original ULTIMATE DIGIMON

The brief appearance and mention of OMNIMON and "Our [Children's] War Game"

Matt and Sora getting together and getting married later on.

Somewhat better drama (when not focused on T.K. or Cody)

Ghostly Wizardmon's appearance in "Ghost of a chance" (?)

And other things I cannot think of.
But overall I favor ADVENTURE I over ADVENURE II. ADVENTURE II just improved on the other characters and added new ones that took time getting used to. - 3/5



I'm honestly peeved that FOX-KIDS sold themselves to DISNEY Coperation, but honestly, does anybody think that Digimon Adventure (Digital Monsters) and ZERO TWO on DVD in a complete series BOX SET or DVDs?


And does anybody own the Japanese DVD version of Adventure or ZERO TWO?

[Super Shanko]

agreed.

Puppetmon was fun though since he was a sadistic little shit that would kill anyone without just cause. i found Metal Seadramon to be annoying but had a nice death that was pretty graphic even without blood.

Leomon was a nice character being the wise and noble figure and all. plus it was just plain funny seeing batboy get chumped by Angewomon so easily.

Tamers was a nice tie to Adventure since Frontier(worst) was lame, since Tamers went in its own direction while keeping a small trail of the 1st.

And Matt and Sora got married? i thought it was just Yolie and Ken?

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Yeah, Matt and Sora got married. Someone though, I'm not sure who, started a rumor that either broke up while they were still dating or got divorced while they were married. TOEI ANIMATION disregarded those rumors and said that the two characters were "happily married" together in whatever year it was that the 25 years later started at the end of ZERO TWO.

[Arigatomina]

...does anybody think that Digimon Adventure (Digital Monsters) and ZERO TWO on DVD in a complete series BOX SET or DVDs?

Are you asking if there's any chance of them being sold as a boxset? Or whether they'd be sold together as a boxset?

As far as I know, they never put any of the first two seasons on dvd. They released random episode collections on tape, but only the combo-movie made it to dvd. None of them were in japanese. If they did make a boxset, it would probably be the tapes with gaps missing for those sections of the series they didn't release on tape. Even if they decided to do a dvd release, it would probably be dubbed, without a Japanese audio track option. I don't think they did any uncut tapes, either, so you'd still be missing scenes (like the bathhouse in episode 8, season 1).

And does anybody own the Japanese DVD version of Adventure or ZERO TWO?[/i]

You can buy a digimon boxset at amazon.com (Japanese version):
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASI ... 55-4396337

I'm not sure if all the seasons were released as boxsets, or just the first two. I never watched past the first half of season 2 when it was playing dubbed on local tv. The series got too far removed from the kids+monster-friends theme. From what I've read, the later seasons were more like a cross between Pokemon and Yugioh, cards and pocket-monsters, rather than a few special monsters paired with a few very special kids. I missed the digidestined - having a digimon used to mean something.

[angelx03]

The series got too far removed from the kids+monster-friends theme. From what I've read, the later seasons were more like a cross between Pokemon and Yugioh, cards and pocket-monsters, rather than a few special monsters paired with a few very special kids. I missed the digidestined - having a digimon used to mean something.

If you're talking about Digimon Tamers, that whole card strategy aspect only lasted for the first couple episodes. Later on, it evolved into something much more that's even more life-threating especially when the D-reaper gets introduced where it's neither good nor evil; it's just following a rather corrupt programming. The whole theme of of having a Digimon as a partner is still there; it's just been taken to a more "realistic" approach (I'm pretty surprised that not all episodes contained a monster-of-the-week battles; it actually contained some straight up character development).

Ari, if you have a chance I highly suggest you check out Digimon Tamers. You'll find that the 3 main digidestined and their digimon to be very likable, and they each get an equal opportunity to grow as real characters. The ending of the season was really exceptional; I nearly teared up because of it.

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Arigatomina wrote:

I'm not sure if all the seasons were released as boxsets, or just the first two. I never watched past the first half of season 2 when it was playing dubbed on local tv. The series got too far removed from the kids+monster-friends theme. From what I've read, the later seasons were more like a cross between Pokemon and Yugioh, cards and pocket-monsters, rather than a few special monsters paired with a few very special kids. I missed the digidestined - having a digimon used to mean something.


angelx03 Wrote:


If you're talking about Digimon Tamers, that whole card strategy aspect only lasted for the first couple episodes. Later on, it evolved into something much more that's even more life-threating especially when the D-reaper gets introduced where it's neither good nor evil; it's just following a rather corrupt programming. The whole theme of of having a Digimon as a partner is still there; it's just been taken to a more "realistic" approach (I'm pretty surprised that not all episodes contained a monster-of-the-week battles; it actually contained some straight up character development).



I watched Digimon Tamers while it was on Television back in 2001/2002. I thought it was a continuation of ZERO TWO back then, but then I researched Tamers on the web and found out it was an entirely different Digimon series altogther (who cares of this Ryo character was in it. Never liked him much anyhow in spite of his absence in ADVENTURE and ZERO TWO). I watched for as long as I could, right up until the D-Reaper story arc. To say the least I wasn't impressed by the PARTNER/DIGIMON digivolving together to make one strong digihuman character, it was rather corny and reminded me of something I watched a looong time ago. Sufficed to say, I didn't like Tamers - it was really boring in the beginning and too dragged out in the end. I was glad when it was over finally. I didn't even bother to look at the Fourth seaon (snore) and I'm not too keen on this Fifth season --"Savers"--- either. I like and are just a far too attatched to the two originals to like anything else to be brief.




Anyhow I looked at my previous post and realized I left one important question about ADVENTURE and ZERO TWO being on DVD: Even if I did buy ADVENTURE (which costs over $500.00 in American dollars), would it even play on an American DVD Player? 'Cause I've heard of DVD's that won't play on certain DVD players because of the region they were made in (sorta like certain Japanese PSII games won't play on US PSII consoles if you get my meanin').

[HyperTails]

I didn't like the 3rd or 4th seasons either, they caused my interest to go down quite a lot. The first two seasons are by far the best. I can't give too much on Savers, since only 2 episodes have aired, but so far it is definately an improvement over the last two. Masaru is a lot more mature than the other digi-destined leaders, though he's just as hot-headed. The digivolutions aren't caused by danger, crests, cards, etc. in it. Instead, they're caused by using a digisoul. Most humans use the digisoul of their own digimon, but Masaru can't, so he has to steal it from other digimon.

Like I said, Adventure and Zero Two are still top on my list.

[hypes]

Good God it's been forever since I watched Digimon. I loved the first season, but then every other one turned out to be crap. Nowadays, its on Toon Disney and I can't bear to watch it as how Saban did such a horrible job bringing it over. I'd love to see the original version.

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Hypes Wrote:

Good God it's been forever since I watched Digimon. I loved the first season, but then every other one turned out to be crap. Nowadays, its on Toon Disney and I can't bear to watch it as how Saban did such a horrible job bringing it over. I'd love to see the original version.


I don't think Saban did such a horrible job with Digimon Adventure. I'm sure, they had some sure crapy dialogue and the theme song is less than favorable NOW --- Eight years ago it was the bomb to me, but then I was just a kid, now its not so bomb-ish. Anyhow, if you look at the other Anime that came under Saban's license, then compared to them, Digimon was almost shown in its truest form in spite of the editing. I mean, Saban really didn't acknowledge death to good digimon until the near end, when Myotistmon killed Wizardmon and Demi-Devimon (if that's the bowling ball's name) and the Dark Master's saga in which various friendlies were killed. Most of the voice acting in Digimon wasn't even horrible by horrible standards (the main characters of Adventure one had some pretty gifted Voice talents. My favorites are ultimately Joshua Seth, Michael Reisz, Michael Lindsay, Colleen O'Shaughnessy, and Lara Jill Miller, among others) By far the US score is still nice to listen to, I only wish Saban and FOX were gracious enough to release a CD for the series score - but their line of thinking was probably "what the heck to kids know about background music?" Louses.

[angelx03]

Just a little comment there. There are quote tags you can use so you don't have to keep on bolding stuff. It really bothers my eyes.