Do submissive anime characters EVER get taken advantage of?

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Re: Do submissive anime characters EVER get taken advantage

Post by EvaXephon » Tue May 02, 2006 6:26 pm

Odi wrote:Wouldnt that be The Girl taking advantage of the boy?
...Um, no, that's not what I wanted to say. I'll try to be more clear this time.

It seems rather unrealistic to me that the male character NEVER does anything with the female character. I think that, in real life, if a guy could get away with having hot sex with a completely submissive girl who will do whatever he desires, I think he'd take that chance as long as the two of them were in a private place.

I am shocked that Keeper of Hellfire has such different point of view. He's saying that most guys would reject a hot sexy babe who will do anything sexual that they want, and that just puzzles me. Sure, in a lot of Hollywood highschool/college films, sex is overplayed, but that doesn't mean that the average guy wouldn't mind having a hot busty slave girl. I do think it is very important to love the one who have sex with, but I REALLY doubt that most people hold that opinion. I don't think that it's that way "For the vast majority of boys and males in general". I bet that more than half of all sexual fantasies involve a girl being submissive and doing whatever the guy wants.

What about you? Would you find the notion of a hot sexy busty slave girl babe obeying your every sexual command arousing, or would you find it repelling?
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Re: Do submissive anime characters EVER get taken advantage

Post by azulmagia » Tue May 02, 2006 6:41 pm

EvaXephon wrote:These are just a few popular examples, but there are surely dozens more anime girls just like these. You know the kind I'm talking about. Submissive girls who don't mind being naked or groped and will do anything for their masters.

However, I have never once - NEVER ONCE - see a male anime character take advantage of one of these types of female characters.
Touma certainly does take advantage of Urara in Sakura Diaries. The anime depiction is somewhat toned down than in the manga (The relevant chapter is chapter 6 of volume 1 of the manga). Mind you, Urara takes advantage of Touma.... Mieko takes advantage of Touma ....and later Urara and Koumi get taken advantage of by total strangers (volume 6 of the manga). There are probably other examples, but I'm not sure of them.

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Post by Purge » Tue May 02, 2006 9:28 pm

so if you had the chance to take advantage of a girl sexy or not but with the mental capacity of a 5 year old (chobits-elfen lied) you would do it. I think a repulsive behavior is a very mature reaction to a situation like that.

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Post by EvaXephon » Tue May 02, 2006 9:49 pm

Purge wrote:so if you had the chance to take advantage of a girl sexy or not but with the mental capacity of a 5 year old (chobits-elfen lied) you would do it. I think a repulsive behavior is a very mature reaction to a situation like that.
Well, with Nyu, it would have been wrong. With Chii, it would have been different; she is a robot and her owner's property to do with as he wishes. And with Ren, it would have been alright because she's a slave and her owner's property and WANTS him to 'use' her as such.
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Post by SarahtheBoring » Tue May 02, 2006 10:08 pm

Keeper of Hellfire wrote:Probably you have watched too much Hollywood highschool/college crap, in which everyone screws around with everyone, at any time and any place.
Hint: EvaXephon had a previous thread about how he never experienced life Just Like All The Other Kids At School. So...yeah, his concept of "reality" is probably based on anime.

Dude - I am serious. If you want to see "something sexual", WATCH SOME DAMN PORN. THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR. End. Otherwise you're just being stupid on purpose.

As for the "omg I want a realdoll for a girlfriend" part, that's off-topic for this forum. Try Livejournal.

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Re: Do submissive anime characters EVER get taken advantage

Post by EvaXephon » Tue May 02, 2006 10:43 pm

SarahtheBoring wrote:If you want to see "something sexual", WATCH SOME DAMN PORN. THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR. End. Otherwise you're just being stupid on purpose.

As for the "omg I want a realdoll for a girlfriend" part, that's off-topic for this forum. Try Livejournal.
I wasn't saying I wanted to see something sexual. I was wondering if there were any instances where a male character actually seized one of the 'submissve character' oppourtunities so common in anime.

I never said I wanted a realdoll for a girlfriend. Now you're just being rude.
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Post by angelx03 » Tue May 02, 2006 10:50 pm

I believe the first episode of REC has that.
After Aka's place got burned down, she pretty much has nowhere to go. So Matsumaru decided to take her in. Aka cried and became quite depressed so Matsumaro comforted her. This lead those two kissing each other and then the implied sex scene.
Is that what you're looking for?
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Post by EvaXephon » Tue May 02, 2006 10:52 pm

angelx03 wrote:I believe the first episode of REC has that.
After Aka's place got burned down, she pretty much has nowhere to go. So Matsumaru decided to take her in. Aka cried and became quite depressed so Matsumaro comforted her. This lead those two kissing each other and then the implied sex scene.
Is that what you're looking for?
That's close to what I'm looking for, but not quite. Maybe if their genders were switched and Matsumoto offered her body to Aka to comfort him.
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Re: Do submissive anime characters EVER get taken advantage

Post by Odi » Wed May 03, 2006 7:11 am

EvaXephon wrote:
Odi wrote:Wouldnt that be The Girl taking advantage of the boy?
...Um, no, that's not what I wanted to say. I'll try to be more clear this time.

It seems rather unrealistic to me that the male character NEVER does anything with the female character. I think that, in real life, if a guy could get away with having hot sex with a completely submissive girl who will do whatever he desires, I think he'd take that chance as long as the two of them were in a private place.

I am shocked that Keeper of Hellfire has such different point of view. He's saying that most guys would reject a hot sexy babe who will do anything sexual that they want, and that just puzzles me. Sure, in a lot of Hollywood highschool/college films, sex is overplayed, but that doesn't mean that the average guy wouldn't mind having a hot busty slave girl. I do think it is very important to love the one who have sex with, but I REALLY doubt that most people hold that opinion. I don't think that it's that way "For the vast majority of boys and males in general". I bet that more than half of all sexual fantasies involve a girl being submissive and doing whatever the guy wants.

What about you? Would you find the notion of a hot sexy busty slave girl babe obeying your every sexual command arousing, or would you find it repelling?
Hehe ^^ yeah i understand exactly what you mean... Whas just pulling alittle lame joke on the "naked sexy busty slave throwing herself at him." That THAT would be the girl taking advantage of the boy.... but back to the topic:

I think whether the boy would take advantage of the girl would depend from person to person. If the boy has any kind of pride and or sense on right or wrong he would not do it. But not all person has that. Or it may differ from culture to culture, but what you are describing can be compared to a person taking sexual advantage over a really really drunk girl. Most (sober) people would maby drive her home or fetch a blanket or something while a minority of stupid fuckarounds would se an opirtunity and rape her. But if this "slave" girl you are describing is infact hitting on the boy and sending strong wibes that say "Oooo wanna come into the closet and do a humparound?" (which not many anime girls do outside of hentai ofc) instead of "Gawsh, im worried for you. Let me make some tea and clean your room" that most anime girls you describe would do we would se alot more "humparump". But then we have hentai that infact does all of the things you are describing.
Just because a guy have weird sexfantasies does not mean he compleatly lack moral.
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Re: Do submissive anime characters EVER get taken advantage

Post by Keeper of Hellfire » Wed May 03, 2006 7:58 am

Odi wrote:Just because a guy have weird sexfantasies does not mean he compleatly lack moral.
Exact. That's the point.
EvaXephon wrote:I bet that more than half of all sexual fantasies involve a girl being submissive and doing whatever the guy wants.
That' your problem. You can't distinct between fantasy and reality. While I agree, the majority of males dream of such a situation, facing it in reality the majority would refuse this offer.

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